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my name is bailey sarian and today is monday
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today’s true
crime case so
today’s true
crime case takes
place in sydney australia and it’s between the
nineteen eighty
to nineteen eighty five and this was like one of
their biggest
murder cases
so if you’re
from australia you probably already know this one
but it was new to me i
never i didn’t
i didn’t know about it
so let me explain the family
law act was passed in 1976
now this was
allowing divorce
to be seen by the federal government in australia
rather than
the supreme
court now the grounds of divorce became
less strict
after the law was passed so
prior to this law being passed the family
law court couples
they needed a reason
to file divorce
and it had to be like
a good reason
you couldn’t just file divorce because you
weren’t in love anymore whatever
so some examples
would be like
insanity cruelty
and then the most common
would be adultery
and there is a lot more but
you just had to have a good reason to get a divorce
and when they opened this new court
i mean people came from
everywhere to get out of
their unhappy
marriages i mean
no longer did they have to
hire a private detective to
catch their partners committing
adultery or try to
prove that they were
in an abusive
relationship you just didn’t have to really have
a reason as to why you were getting divorced it was
pretty cut and dry like i want out of this
marriage and all right
you’re good to go
so this is new right like
a lot of people are coming to get a divorce and
at this new family court
because it’s new
things aren’t
necessarily running
smoothly okay
family court it
could be like a pretty
messy or like
intense scene i mean some
women were there trying to get a restraining
order against
their abusive husbands or
they were just trying to get away from
their crappy partners the
courts itself it had really poor security and it was
really overcrowded because
people were coming in
there was just a lot of um
fights happening there was a lot
of frustration it wasn’t like a safe
place yet and then on top of that the
courts also seemed to really
favor women
in custody battles
especially and then there were a lot
of upset fathers
and honestly looking
back even they acknowledge that yes they did tend to
favor the women
over men as far as like who had custody of the children
it just wasn’t a very like equal
system at that time so people
would leave
their more upset
just really upset
so then in 1979
andrea blancard
and leonard
warwick went to the family
court to pretty much file for
divorce but also
determine custody of the children
so andrea met her husband
leonard on a
blind date in 1970
andrea was 18
at the time when she saw him it was love at
first sight you know
and they fell for each
other pretty
quickly which no
shame on that it happens
leonard and andrea they ended up
marrying in
october of 1974 he
leonard was
27 at the time and
andrea was 22 years old
for some reason i didn’t get a backstory
on andrea i’m
gonna tell you a little bit
about leonard
so leonard was born
in helensburg australia
and sadly his mom passed away when
he was only six years old and this is obviously like a
devastating to the family
um he had a younger
sister who was a year younger than
than him she was five at the time
and she ended up moving in with
their aunt to get easier on
their father
because financial reasons like
it was just really hard on
their dad and then
leonard ended up
dropping out of
school at the age of 15
so he can help
raise some money so he
started working on a mushroom farm
and then when he was 18 he was
drafted and was forced to join the military and
leonard was not
happy about this like he was
and then he was discharged
about three years later
and then soon
after leaving the military he got a job
as a fireman
also that’s when he met andrea
and they started dating and
they got married blah blah
blah not long
after unfortunately
a dark side
came out of
leonard and he
started to be very
possessive or jealous
and he was like this when they were dating
allegedly but when they got
married it became
very extreme so he was extremely controlling
possessive and abusive
towards andrea
leonard would show up to andrea’s work pretty often
and unexpectedly
just to check up on her
he would tell andrea that she was not allowed to
speak to her family
or her friends
they weren’t allowed to come over
she pretty much wasn’t allowed to do anything
unless leonard
said she could
leonard was also very physically abusive towards andrea
and he would regularly
i can’t say that word
so then in 1975 andrea is just
ready to get away from
leonard and
she ends up moving out to live with her father
and while they were separated
leonard would show up at her father’s house
he would try and
break in he
would try to
convince andrea to come back andrea decided
she needs to get a restraining order
against leonard
leonard would
start to threaten
andrea’s father like saying that he was pretty much
gonna kill him
or wishing for him to die
and this really
worried andrea
and she didn’t want
her dad to go through this and have to go through this
extra stress
and she carried a lot of
guilt because of this and therefore
andrea decided
to move back in with
leonard and she said she did it in
order to protect her father
and i just need to add this side note
because i wanna shut it down
because i know the comments are
gonna happen
how do i word this without being
awful hmm do not
leave comments saying well why did
why didn’t she just
leave him if
he’s physically abusive with her why didn’t she just
leave why did she go back
we’re shutting that down i’m
gonna be deleting any of
those comments and i’ll tell you why
if you have
never been in
an abusive or controlling relationship you have no idea
how it goes
okay when you are in this abusive
toxic relationship you do
things that you thought
that make no
sense okay you just
so brainwashed of
course from an outsider looking in it’s easy to be like
watch just fucking leave
beating you
get out of there it’s different when you’re in it
unless you’ve experienced it no we’re not
gonna blame her
because i know
those comments will come in and they
piss me off for me personally i’ve
never been in a physically abusive
relationship
but i have been in a very
possessive controlling
relationship and it was very toxic
and looking back i’m like what was i doing what was i
thinking but in that moment i
truly felt like i couldn’t
leave and it was like they had this
they have this
power over you
and it’s awful
and unless you’ve been there
you don’t understand
it doesn’t make sense yes
to andrea she does go back to leonard
and then sometime passes
and andrea finds out that she
is pregnant and then that year
their daughter was born her name
is trudy and she was born in
june of 1978
so in 1979 finally andrea and
leonard they go to the family
court and they they try to file for divorce
andrea she files for custody of
treaty and this
heavily upset
leonard and when
leonard realized
that she was trying to get full custody of trudy
i mean this set him off and
daily he was harassing andrea
over the custody
battle he told andrea that he wanted trudy at all costs
the courts end up
granting andrea full custody of trudy
and they grant
visiting rights for
or to leonard
allowing leonard to see trudy at least
twice a week
and then he also had to pay like 20 dollars weekly for
child support and also he had to uphold the restraining
order that andrea had originally filed as well now
leonard over here he didn’t give two shits nene
he just wanted his daughter
and i don’t even
like this is a personal opinion that i’m
about to say okay
cause i don’t know if he cared for his
daughter or not you know he
could love her
tremendously but i personally
think that he
only wanted trudy
because he knew it was
going to hurt andrea
and the only way to control her
would be to
get trudy or get custody of trudy
or just make her
andrea’s life a living hell pretty much
anyway so leonard
would show up to
trudy school
and it wouldn’t be on
visiting time
he would just show up whenever he wanted to and then
either take trudy
or like hang out with trudy when he wasn’t supposed to
also during
the days when he
would be allowed to have trudy he
would keep her longer
than what he was supposed to or what he was allowed so
if it was two days then he
would keep trudy for four days or for a week
and on one occasion
it really worried andrea and she calls
leonard over and over
again trying to find out okay
where’s trudy like what’s
going on you need to tell me
andrea didn’t have a car at this time
so she couldn’t just like
drive over there and see what’s going on
so she’s calling calling calling and
leonard’s not answering he’s just being confused
shit so then andrea
she calls her brother his name is steven and he was
twenty five years old at this time
leonard has kept trudy like i don’t know what’s
going on i can’t get a hold of anybody
can we take your car
and go over to his
house and get
trudy so of course
um her brother being supportive and
understanding he’s been like seeing
her really go through all this he’s like sure
no problem she also just liked the fact that like she
would have some kind of security when she goes over to
leonard’s house
pick up trudy
you know if it was her by herself
leonard who knows what he
could pull steven takes
andrea down to
leonard’s house and
steven goes up he’s like
knocking on the door
leonard answers and stevens
at the door and he’s telling him like
hey man you’ve had
treaty for way past your time steven
even goes on to say like we’re not here to cause any
trouble i’m not trying to
cause trouble
we just want
treaty back of course this is
irritating and
upsetting leonard
steven tried to
point out to
leonard that it just
wouldn’t look favorable in
court for him if he was breaching
the court orders
the piece of
crap that he is he pretty much just slams the door in
their face and refuses to give
over trudy steven
tried his best to just keep it as
calm and civil
as possible anyways andrea
went to the family
court and said
that leonard wasn’t giving trudy back
they had to step in
and eventually i
think it was like a couple days later
trudy was returned to andrea
so february of
1980 stephen
andrea’s brother so he finished his work for the
night and he headed over to his
girlfriend’s home
just a visit before heading home
he lived with andrea trudy and
their father so they were all living together
their father at this time he was away
on vacation
and so at home it was just andrea trudy and
steven by the time steven had gotten home that
night it was pretty late
into the the
night like almost midnight he just kind of like quietly
snuck in and
and then he went into the back of the
house to his bedroom
and then that’s
where he just fell asleep for the night
in the early
hours of the morning it’s
believed to be anywhere from like 2 to 4 am somebody
breaks into the house
an intruder
breaks into the
house and then they silently
go into steven’s bedroom
which was like towards the back of the
house which that
point everybody was
sound asleep in
the home and steven was
sound asleep as well
this intruder aimed
a point twenty two
caliber at steven
and shot him
the bullet entered just
above steven’s
right eye and it killed him
instantly the
point 22 had a silencer
attached so andrea and trudy they didn’t hear a damn
thing okay the
shooter then
wrapped a plastic bag around steven’s head to
contain the
bleeding so it didn’t make the like this fat mess and
leave a trail
they wrapped steven up in like his blankets
that he was
sleeping on
somehow quietly
carried steven out of the house and
so then the next day it was truti’s
second birthday
or that same day if it was morning
it was truti’s
second birthday
and andrea wakes up she
checks to see if steven was home but
when she saw he wasn’t home she didn’t really
think twice
about it like i didn’t really face her mostly
because steven
would stay the
night at his
girlfriend’s
house pretty often
and so when he wasn’t there
it wasn’t a big deal but
later that day the
phone rings and andrea answers it hello
and it was steven’s boss asking
where steven was because he didn’t show up for a
shift and at that
moment andrea was like instantly andrea said she was
worried and she had
that gut feeling that something was really really wrong
it was just very unlike him
to not show up for work but
like not let them know like it just wasn’t like him
so andrea then goes like into his bedroom
and when she goes into his bedroom she finds
his wallet is on the bedside table
so andrea then
calls the police to file a missing persons report
and the police ask andrea is there anybody that would
wanna harm steven
and she didn’t even
think twice
she instantly told police
her ex husband
leonard now as the days passed
family the family and
friends of steven they were all looking for him there
was just no luck nobody was having any luck finding
him no one was having any luck finding any clues
nothing he just vanished
so then about a week
later a group of friends are boating jerusalem bay at
karen creek it’s
about 25 kilometers
north of sydney
this group of friends is out on their boat
and they see something
floating in the water
could you imagine
gosh anyways so the
group of friends
they thought that it was a mannequin at first
but then once
they got closer they realized that it was a human
body they call police and
as you should
and then the
police came out and they were able to retrieve
the male victim
and when they retrieved the male
victim out of the lake
there was a rope that was
tied around his midsection
11 bricks that were attached
chew the rope
and then there was another
piece of rope that was tied around his neck
with a garbage bag attached
also they see signs that the
victim had been
attacked by what was believed to be a bull
shark in the area
and they believed whoever
had placed the
victim in the area try to make sure
he wasn’t found by attaching
bricks to the body whoever did this thought it
would sink down and it
would stay down but
this person hadn’t
taken into consideration
that when he passed away the body
kind of like fills up with gases and you get bloated
and like full of gas
it brought him
to the surface of the
water like it was
stronger than the 11 brick
so later yes the victim was
identified to be
andrea’s brother steven
and then a murder investigation was now
underway you know
when they look at steven’s body they examine the rope
and they see
that this rope was a special
kind of rope a rope
that is only used and
issued to all
of the official firefighters
do you remember what i said
leonard does
well if you don’t remember what i said
leonard worked
as a firefighter
so so when andrea
found out all this information she knew
it was leonard
leonard is brought in to be questioned by police
this is where
leonard got really difficult
so he petitioned his
right to silence and he refused to speak
he refused to
speak about
where he was the
night that steven was
murdered pretty much anything he just refused to speak
now remember
this is the 80s
and this is also australia so i don’t even
know how the laws work in general but back then from my
understanding you had to have physical evidence
to charge someone with a crime
the fireman’s rope
links to leonard
cause he’s a
firefighter but at the same time they don’t have any
proof that it’s
leonard’s rope do you see what i’m saying
so they really couldn’t do anything about it
police they search
leonard’s property
and the only
piece of evidence they
could find a
piece of paper and it has the word rope
written on it
they don’t find
any other evidence and because of that they
are unable to charge
leonard with anything there’s
gonna be a lot of names thrown at you throughout this
whole thing and i’m
gonna try my best
to keep it simple we’ll see how that goes enter judy
so judy is andrea
and steven’s sister the
whole family is devastated by the loss of
their brother steven
but judy she ends up finding comfort
in a new religion
and she becomes a
member of the jehovah’s witness
so she invites
andrea and trudy to join a few of
their meetings with her
and suggest
maybe they become members of the jehovah witness
as well like it’s comforting
to have this
sense of community
especially in a time of
of loss now
that will be important
later so going back to the family law
court so the
judge who had first
heard and andrea and
leonard’s case
is anyone’s justice
david opus now correct me if i’m
wrong australia but from my
understanding they use the word justice
in front of
their names when they’re like
a judge correct
so you know how we call people like judge judy
that’s like the only
judge i know but
they say justice
judy this guy his name was
justice david opus
he was the one who
first took care of andrea and leonard
their custody battle and divorce and
stuff like that so he was the one that
granted andrea
full custody
of trudy with only
visitation for leonard
now over time
leonard was just being a shithead
not following the law
and not even
listening to anything justice opus
was telling
leonard to do and
leonard had proven over and over again
that he was not
gonna obey court
orders like justice opus
he threatens to charge
leonard with contempt of
court and also
orders leonard’s
visitations
stop until their next
court hearing as punishment because he’s not file
he’s not um he’s not
wow i just had the biggest
brain fart that following the rules pretty much
so this pisses
leonard off
he wants his
daughter trudy and he even said
nobody’s gonna get in his way
so then june of nineteen eighty
justice opus returns home from work
and this is just before like
seven pm he’s
about to sit down for dinner with his wife and two kids
and when he’s like getting
ready to sit down the doorbell rings and
while getting up to go answer the door the fire
alarm from next door goes off so there’s this loud like
hey hey hey
did you like my fire
alarm you know how fire
alarms are they’re just loud and annoying
but it’s going off like it’s really loud
so justice opus
he opens the
front door and instantly when he opens the front door
he is immediately shot by a point
twenty two the same gun that was used on steven
in the stomach
the noise of the shot it’s not very noticeable
because of the loud fire
alarms coming from next door
but after a little bit of time his wife notices that
he’s been at the front door for a while so i should
go check on him
so she goes over to the
front door and
he finds him on his back unresponsive so police
and ambulances have a
delayed response time due to another emergency
phone call of a
random bomb explosion
sadly justice opus was
investigation
starts right away and
since the family
court can be a place where
emotions run really high
and people are really pissed off all the time
it’s hard for investigators to
narrow down who exactly
would do this
to justice opus a one hundred thousand dollar reward
is posted for information on his
death and people
start to think that
maybe the bomb explosion had been
intended to
a way to hold up emergency officials
in the first
place which is why it took so long to get to
justice opus’s residence
so then investigators
they pretty much make up this list of
upset men that have been clients
of justice opus
and would rule
them out like one by one because a lot of them had
solid alibis
once they got to
leonard’s name on the list
they’re like here’s that name
again leonard
so immediately
investigators go over to
leonard’s they get like
i think a warrant
i’m not sure what it’s
yeah and investigators they
search leonard’s home
and they find
government toilet
paper in his property
which was taken from his work as a fireman
so they charged
leonard with theft so they can get his fingerprints
and this might not make a lot of
sense but they knew
leonard was
tied to what was going on
but they didn’t have physical evidence
to arrest him
right so when they were
going and they were
searching his house
they were like we just
gotta find something to arrest him
so we can get his fingerprints we can get him booked
and then hopefully get them to confess
right so that’s what they did they’re
searching his home
and they find something as simple as toilet
paper i’ve also
heard it was towels
so one of those
or maybe neither
either way it was
taken from his
place of work
so when they saw that they were like okay
that’s it like we’ll just
book them on that and then we can get him in there so
they take him
on that and then they get his fingerprints and whatnot
and then once
again when leonard was being questioned
used to speak to investigators he maintained his
right to silence
he refused to answer questions
and his reasoning
was that because he didn’t want to incriminate himself
there was no physical evidence to charge
leonard with
when they had leonard in
their custody
it was frustrating because they couldn’t
get anything they couldn’t get anything from him right
so they had no choice they had to let him go
which is like oh my god
is what i wanted to
scream now comes justice
richard gee
now he stepped in to take over
justice opus
wait what was the name
justice gee
was now responsible
for andrea and
leonard’s case
in 1981 justice gi
ruled that andrea and
leonard their
house it needed to be sold
and that the
money would be
equally divided between the couple
at that time
leonard was living in it
not andrea so
this would mean
leonard would have to move out so of course this
doesn’t happen
and then in 1983
justice gi pushes
again that the
house needs to be sold
and he enforces
lesser visitation
rights for leonard to see his daughter
of course once again
cycle begins
this pisses
leonard off and he
doesn’t comply
he’s not gonna move out and he’s not
gonna see less of his
daughter so of course during
leonard’s visitation he
would again
keep trudy for way too long
it was supposed to be
two days he
would keep her for four days
and it was this
constant just back and forth
and he was just making andrea’s life a living hell and
poor trudy she was just in the middle of it i forgot
about her that
so sad course andrea then goes to the family
court to let them know that
leonard has
had trudy for far too long
he’s not giving her back
and justice key
he orders a warrant for police to take trudy from
leonard and
bring her back to her mother and
leonard was
upset this man ew
he just on the
night of april
i don’t know the date
april 1984 it was late at
night and inside the family
court building
bomb went off destroying half of the building
it was believed that this bomb was supposed to
go off in the morning when it was filled with workers
but luckily it went off in the middle of the
night there was
like a janitor there i believe
but they were uninjured luckily
so this happens
and then soon
after justice
gee and his two sons are asleep at home
and it’s about 1 30 in the morning
everyone is
sound asleep
and a bomb goes off in
front of his
house and it
completely destroys
justice keys
home now there
were reports saying if you were looking at the
house you couldn’t even tell it was a house
and they thought there’s no way anybody survived this
there’s just no way
but luckily somehow
miraculously
nobody’s killed
they have some serious injuries
but they were
alive and they were
going to be okay the children and justice
gee so justice
key was taken to the hospital
and that’s where police meet up with him
and ask him a couple of questions
who could have done this
do they even need to ask just as
he doesn’t even hesitate and he’s like leonard le
nerd so what
i know this is like so exhausting but it this is
like what the fuck
right that was my
responses the whole time
when i was reading this one i was like
what once again
leonard is the
prime suspect
he had no alibi
and when he was brought in for questioning
you guessed it he said nothing
he refused to answer any questions and police
could not find any evidence linking him to the
crimes nothing
we have a new
judge or justice
so his name is justice
watson he took over
leonard’s and andrea’s case the day
after justice geese
house was bombed
this new justice is
definitely reluctant
to take on this case
because of this ongoing pattern
that’s been happening there were
extra security measures
that were brought in to keep members safe and the cycle
started all over
again so justice watson
he also restricted
leonard’s time with trudy this pissed
leonard off
leonard didn’t want to listen to court
orders and he
would keep trudy he
would show up on his own terms and
it was just a mess
on the morning of july fourth nineteen eighty four
justice watson and his wife they were getting
ready for the day
leaving to go to work
and justice watson his wife
went to the
front door and she opened it
cause she’s leaving
and as soon as she opened the door a bomb goes off
sadly his wife was killed instantly
and justice watson
he was injured with the
debris and he was
taken to the hospital
for his injuries
once again leonard was interviewed the same
night of the bombing and he just refused
to speak it’s just exhausting
right i know
i know i couldn’t believe this was a real story
anyways police investigators end up
searching his
house and the fire station
where he worked
they find no physical evidence
and they can’t charge him
with anything because of that nothing the investigators
knew like dude
it’s leonard
we have to figure this out but they can’t do anything
all of the evidence
is circumstantial and it’s not physical
and at this
point in the law in the 80s
you couldn’t arrest someone
based off of circumstantial evidence
it had to be hardcore
physical proof now
people are really reluctant to work for the family
court due to fears
legitimate fear
for their safety and
their family
safety there were employees
who were quitting because of what was going on
and then there were
also employees who just
weren’t even
showing up they were like working from home
or just like not coming in at all
do you blame em
and then this case pretty much turns into the biggest
and one of the longest cases in the history
of australia
so time goes on and in february of 1985
leonard goes to andrea’s home
demanding to have trudy
leonard ends up getting physical with andrea
and he’s trying to take trudy away from her
i just had deja vu whoa
leonard gets physical with andrea and
tries to take trudy from her but
andrea was able to
get away from him and lock herself in their home
until leonard
finally left
why the police wasn’t called i’m not really
fully sure but at this
point andrea
realizes she just needs to get the hell out of
sydney for her
safety for her
daughter’s safety
and for everybody else’s safety
so andrea ends up calling her
sister judy
to help her pack and
leave now at this time andrea had
a new legal council
his name was gary watts and he
advised andrea to be more
harsh with leonard
he knew of the history
when leonard
found out who the new
legal counsel was well
guess who was the new target
i feel so bad because you know like no
one really wanted to work with andrea because of this
whole mess and it’s like
this poor girl gary watts the new
legal counsel
he recently had sold his property
and it was also
then being rented out to a man named pete
and his two siblings so
peter had gone outside to work on his car because
he had to take it in to get registered
you know how that goes
you need to like
fix it up so it passes
anyway so peter
lifts up the
the roof of his car
no not the roof what’s it called hood
peter he lifts up the
hood of his car and he’s kind of like fixing or tuning
things up and then
guess what he finds
he finds what looks to be a goddamn bomb
inside of the engine
or it’s like next to the engine
it’s somewhere in there
peter got so lucky
the bomb it didn’t go off but if the car was started
it would have gone off and he
would have he
would have died police were called
it at first seems kind of random
because this
peter guy he has like no
connection why
would he be a
target but they soon
realized or they put the
pieces together
that the address was listed
still as being gary’s address
and it was like public information
because of that
leonard he must have
gotten the information assumed that that was his house
and went and put the bomb in his car
thinking it was gary’s car
now this information
about the bomb it gets back to andrea who knows once
again it was
leonard and she’s like that’s it we need to get out
asap so she calls her
sister judy judy
asked the jehovah
witness community
to help andrea and trudy
which they find somebody
who could rent out the home that andrea was staying at
so judy and friends from the jehovah’s witness
community they help andrea move
quickly like out of sydney
and then at this time
andrea’s legal
counsel gary
gary watts the one
where the bomb was supposed to be at
he resigns for his own
safety so he steps away from helping andrea
so once again the
cycle repeats okay
leonard’s home is searched
no physical evidence is
found also police investigators they question
leonard’s co workers
and their co workers are like yeah
he’s really
standoffish
he’s kind of mean
they tell investigators like he likes to hunt
and he likes pornography
but not much else that they
could tell him
so leonard tries to go get trudy
or something but he eventually
finds out that andrea and trudy they left
so when he finds
out that they’re gone and they left the home
he loses his
shit so leonard is asking around like if anybody knows
their whereabouts
and he’s just
becoming more and more upset
leonard he knew that
andrea’s sister judy was a
jehovah witness
and he calls the
congregation asking do you know
where andrea and trudy
are at or do you know where judy
is at do you know
where they moved to do you know what happened to them
most people
would deny and say that they didn’t know
where they went
but one person told
leonard that they went up
north specify
where they went they just said that they went up north
so leonard is like
these people the jehovah’s witness people they know
where they’re at and they’re not telling me
it pisses them off
and so leonard has this
great idea he’s like i’m gonna
break into the jehovah’s witness church
which i guess he was
gonna look for any type of information
paperwork he’s looking for anything that will give him
an idea or a clue
or a location of
where trudy
and andrea are
the people who worked at the church came to the
congregation the next day
they see that somebody
broke in because there is a broken window
but also there was
blood on the window so there was a broken window
and whoever like
crawled through the window
cut themselves they left their
blood on the window
so police were
called and they kind of just thought it was
local homeless people
who broke in because nothing was
stolen or damaged or
besides the window but like there was nothing
else that was messed with anyways but police did take a
sample of the blood
that was on the window area
but at this
point dna testing wasn’t a
thing yet they
could test the
blood and find out what
blood type it was
but that was
about it a week
later that same
window was broken into and it was just assumed
that it was just
again hoodlums
because nothing was
stolen and nothing was really messed with
but that following day
okay this motherfucker
during a church service
at the jehovah
witness church or
congregation i’m not sure if they call it church
either way a bomb explodes in the middle of service
many people were injured and
sadly one member was killed they were
lucky though that the bomb didn’t make the
building cave in
instead it made the
building explode outwards
but it was completely destroyed immediately
leonard is the
prime suspect
at this point
judy andrea
they had moved out to forster i
guess i should have looked up
where that was
police ended up contacting judy and andrea
and they let them know like what had happened
and sadly judy
just really blamed herself she just felt really guilty
that she had
caused this
to her congregation
to her church to
her community
just really sad
and she tells police
fucking leonard like i’m
sorry for laughing but
when police
are asking like do you have any idea who this
could be it’s like you guys
fucking leonard
anyway so once
again fucking leonard
he’s brought in
for an interview
and at this time he had a new girlfriend
and her name was lorraine
lorraine is
quoted as being
a rather low
class girl with
tattoos in a
rough manner and quote
i feel like this is a personal attack
so she’s also questioned and
lorraine is
kind of like a blabbermouth and she was like telling
police that
leonard was looking for entree
and trudy that he was getting really agitated and
annoyed and
leonard pretty much shuts it down and
he tells police
investigators he’s not allowed to interview
her anymore she has a
right to silence
and he like shuts her up
which is unfortunate because it seems like she
they probably
could have got some information from her but damn
leonard he knew his rights
and again once they questioned
leonard they got
absolutely nothing from him
so at this point police
were like okay we need a different approach you guys
so they decide that they are
gonna give leonard
constant surveillance
undercover cops are just
gonna follow him they put a
tracking device
on his car they have these
undercover police officers
following leonard
everywhere but they’re keeping
a distance trying to make sure that they’re not caught
but because
leonard is leonard
he caught on
he knew that there were
undercover cops and he would
start doing like little
weird things
just to kind of
throw them off he
would just kind of drive in
circles leading them nowhere he would
load up his car with
stuff and then go back into the
house and it was just kind of messing with the
undercover police officers
he would also go up to them when they were sitting in
their car and he
would ask if they wanted like coffee or something
so he knew so at this
point andrea was exhausted
as i’m sure any of us would be
and she felt like she was responsible for all of
these deaths
and she said you know what i’m just gonna
surrender custody of trudy
to leonard in hopes that the attacks
and the deaths and the murders
will end now at
first when i read this i was like wait
what you’re
gonna hand over your
child to this psycho man
if i were in her shoes
i don’t know what i
would do either i mean it seems like she’s
she’s trying
everything you know and
i don’t yeah
don’t blame her i
guess so ever
since andrea gave up custody of
treaty the bombings
and murders had stopped
and then according to andrea
trudy had lived with
leonard until
she was about 16
and leonard
remarried and the wife didn’t get
along with trudy
and trudy then
moved out for trudy
i hope she’s okay
so due to lack of
sufficient evidence the case goes cold for
thirty years
a joke right i know you don’t
gotta tell me that twice
so the investigation continues and in
2012 detectives went through the case again
since the laws had changed
so they were
going through
their cold cases taking a look at them
again in 2015
leonard was finally
charged with
thirty two charges
four charges of murder were
amongst those
thirty two charger
charges at that time in
twenty fifteen
he was then
68 years old when he was arrested
investigators say that they discovered new evidence
with technology
that wasn’t around back then when the
crimes were committed
now they were able to get dna
from the blood evidence
that they got way back from the church window as of
right now july of 2019
a trial hasn’t even
taken place yet
yeah he’s just in prison
waiting for trial
leonard is now 72 he
was claiming that like his lawyer was
bullying him his
legal representative
decided to pull out and stop representing him
and then he didn’t have
money to get someone to represent him
and you can’t go to
trial if you don’t
have somebody representing you and it’s just been this
whole like mess
also leonard
stands by the fact that he is not guilty
to these charges and he
stands by that
as far as what happened to trudy and andrea
i don’t know i
guess trudy
got married
and she has children of her own andrea
poor andrea
they were just put through the most
i’m not sure
where andre is at
i was kind of looking up
where trudy
was but i felt like you know this
i’m sure she
doesn’t want that shit
you know just
leave him alone
and that is the exhausting
story about leonard
and now the laws are different um
you can arrest somebody if there is
circumstantial evidence
of course more goes into that but it’s not like it was
when this shit went down it’s just
gotten better exhausting this man did so much damage
it’s insane
i just have to say this
if you or a
loved one are experiencing domestic abuse
you can get help
and you can get the f out of there
okay i know if you are
stuck in this
cycle it may seem like you are trapped
you can’t go anywhere
you don’t have anywhere to go you don’t have
money you don’t have anything
that could help you get away
but i am going to list in the description box
where you can find help in your area
cause there are tons of programs
that you can go to
and programs that will help you find safe
places you can get out
so i guess we will see
what happens to
leonard i have a good feeling that
he’s gonna be
found guilty
also really
quick if you
watched my toy box killer
video was about the toy box killer and elephant butte
truth or consequences t or c
anyways news came out the
other day that cindy
david’s girlfriend
the bitch is getting out
monday oh shit
today she’s out
right now can you believe it yeah
i’m not even
kidding when i read that i was like wait what what
what she’s getting out
today monday she served 80
of her sentence they said that she had good behavior
who knows what the what the hell she’s gonna do
i’m so confused because like the toy box
thing was effed up how is she getting
be safe out there please
be safe out there
truth or consequences
she’s coming for you
maybe she’s
changed anyways
i hope you have a wonderful day today i love and
appreciate you
guys so much i hope you have a wonderful day
today you make
good choices
please be safe out there
and i’ll be seeing you guys later ahh