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my name is Bailey Sarian and today is Monday
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like the last couple weeks have been really intense
right I just been talking
about some really
crazy stuff
going on today is
still bad people are
still dying
but it’s not as bad as the other ones
okay so a lot of you who have been
watching probably know normally I
start off the
video talking
about the said to be killers
background and like
where they came from blah blah blah blah
right so today
there’s just like so much to the
story I thought
I’m just gonna like jump into it and hopefully this
doesn’t come out confusing
I’m gonna try my best
I’m trying something different I
gotta learn
March 14th 1998
Los Angeles police receive a 9 one one call
about a body being found okay
oh she’s jumping
right into it
now there was
a homeless person who was like out in an
alley digging through the dumpster looking for
food or something sad
and unfortunately
he came across
a body so the police department comes out
and they see a
white male he’s
wrapped in a garbage bag
and he’s inside the dumpster there was no
identification on
his body so they had no idea who this guy was
he had no shoes on but
the bottom of his feet were clean
which indicated that
this was a body dump and the murder had
taken place
somewhere else
that’s what the police had determined police examined
the victim and they saw that it was a
close shot to
the back of his head that killed him there’s a
a gunshot in the back of his head they send the body
to the coroner’s office for an autopsy
and while there they’re able to ID the victim as
David Kasdan
so then police
go down to the
victims home
David kasdan’s children
they had already been notified they were waiting
for the police at
david’s house
David kasdan’s
daughter had noticed that
their father’s car
was missing from the garage
and they also noticed some damage that was
on this like
stone wall just outside the
driveway so investigators go and they
check it out and they see that there’s like blue
paint on the wall it’s the same
color of his
car so that is indicating that somebody left in a hurry
but there’s no
other evidence of foul play
so investigators had asked like
does your father have any enemies
anyone that
would want to hurt him and his children
who are grown
adults by the way but they are
quick to say hell yeah
65 year old
Santa chimes
oh and her 23 year old son
Kenny David
kasdan’s kids presented the
police with a letter that that he had written to Sante
several days
prior now in this letter
he said that he didn’t want to cooperate with the
crimes in a
particular loan
fraud scheme
now David kasdan’s daughter
doesn’t know the specifics of this scheme
but she recalls a strange
conversation she had with her father just days before
he had disappeared see his
daughter was over at his house
and there was this car and it was just like parked out
in front of her father’s
house and her father
was super suspicious
of it and he
David Kasdan
he told his
daughter if you ever see that car
don’t go outside I don’t know why but like
David kasdan’s daughter
like didn’t
push further for answers
she was just kind of like oh okay I
would have been asking
shit ton of questions we don’t
know who’s that
should I go talk to them what
should I say okay so who is the Sante and
Kenny Kemes
that David caste’s
daughter had mentioned
well David Kasdan
take a shot
every time I say it I
guess he had
known Santee and
Kenny Chimes
and their family for many
many years David
had been friends with millionaire
Ken Chimes senior
Since 1974 then
David had worked on an insurance
claim for the family when Ken Chimes
Senior passed away
David had been
threatened by
Santee and Kenny recently
the threats were coming in via
telephone personal appearances
and letters
saying that
David needed to
watch out and go
along with their plans or else
anyway so detectives
check into the
background of
sant’e Chimes and her son
Kenny Jr and they
soon find out that one of them has a pretty lengthy
rap sheet miss
Sante over here had been
quite busy sante
had served time for involuntary servitude or
slavery this being the most
recent case
she had also been incarcerated for theft
and fraud she had a pattern of luring
Mexican and
Latin American
immigrants to come work for her as a maid
with promises
of good treatment
travels and a job
but for the most part she just
completely lied to
these people
about everything though when Sante
walked into a room she got attention from everybody
men and women
okay and I’ll tell you why
because she had a resemblance
spot on resemblance
to Elizabeth
Taylor and she played that up
friends would say
that Santee
would say that she yeah she was Elizabeth
Taylor cause like people
would recognize her and
think she was Elizabeth
Taylor santee
would just play that up and be like Yes
I am Elizabeth
Taylor darling
or whatever she
would do and she
would just give free shit
but Santee also had charisma to go with the looks
which she felt like gave her
power over men
so police were surprised
by her history
but the slavery charges
is what concern them the most because of her violent
treatment towards her mates
okay Santee
had mates at one point
she would make them
clean already
clean floors
they were not allowed to
leave or talk to anybody she
would like walk them into the
house they just
weren’t allowed to do anything without her permission
on several occasions
she actually beat the crap out of some of
her maids as well
like one of her maids
clean something
wrong or like she just didn’t listen to her santee
took the iron
and burned her with it another maid said that
she had beat her with
I’m not laughing
coat hangers
when she didn’t
clean correctly
I was kind of giggling because I was
thinking of
Mommy Dearest
no more wired hangers
you know that
right let’s hope
a lot of you guys are
kinda young
watching this
mommy dearest
look it up on top of all that the maids
they didn’t even receive pay for their work
and because they were illegal immigrants
santee completely took advantage of them
so then in 1970
Santee meets
real estate millionaire Ken
Chimes you see
Santee was reading a local
magazine and she came across this article
about Ken Chimes
and like how rich he was
how he recently went through a divorce
so then Santee
does her homework okay she does her homework on Ken
she finds out
that he’s worth
millions of dollars
and he’s recently divorced
and she’s thinking
oh yeah baby
jackpot she was determined to make Ken
hers I mean she was just
ready to live
the life of a wealthy
millionaire because she thought she deserved that
so Santee did more homework on Ken
and she realized well she
found out what he liked
and tailored herself to fit that image
for example
ken’s favorite
color was white
exciting so then Santee
decided to wear
white all the time
Ken love the
smell of gardenias
so that became her signature perfume
she wasn’t wealthy at this
point like Ken
so she made
sure to dress in a way that exuded
wealth status
highbrow money
and it was all
just designed to help get what she wanted
santee was constantly
throwing herself at him
and eventually it
stuck took some time
but it worked
the 2 began
to hang out and to date and they had fun together
Sante had provided some
excitement to his life it was
kind of boring and bleak and it wasn’t long before Ken
SR becomes aware of
sant’s criminal behavior
and he allowed her to
carry on with her maids
see when she
moved in with Ken
this millionaire that’s when she really
started to to get
these maids because they
could afford it
now it’s said that Ken
it said that he was seduced into the situation
sante was the boss
she called the shots Ken just went
along with it he had nothing to do with
these maids but I mean come on
so then 5 years
later Santee
gives birth to
Kenny Junior in 1975
so this is the son
of Ken Chimes
SR the millionaire
right Kenny was
treated as the prince of the
households you
could do no
wrong this baby was
everything to her
I personally
think it’s because this baby
was guaranteed
money for Santee
being the son of a very wealthy man
Ken chimes the millionaire
he told friends
and even Santee that he didn’t want to marry her
he knew that she was
after his money
and all of his
money was going to his children from the previous
marriage so
Santee was like well
shit I will just like get pregnant and trap his ass
that’s my assumption
a few years
later the Chimes
family they
moved to Las Vegas
I mean right off the bat
Santee is transforming
Kenny her baby
into her accomplice
santee would take him
shopping with her in a
stroller you know she
would have her baby in the stroller
and it’s not
funny it’s really sad that she was
using her baby to
help her but her kid is just sitting in the
stroller like
excited to be
alive she would
stuff items into the
stroller she would even
stuff items
underneath the baby to like hide them and
steal it she controlled
who he could see
when they can see them
Kenny was also tutored at home
santee didn’t want him to have
any friends or contact with people without her approval
Kenny did get a chance to
break away from his
mother’s tight
grip when Santee
finally received jail time
for slavery
apparently one of the maids
had escaped
out of the house
and called 9 one
one it’s not
funny but like just the
whole thing is like
crazy like what is happening
but luckily one of the mates
escapes and calls 9 one one and gets out of that
abuse Kenny
would say he saw the detectives come and arrest his
mother and said it was just
devastating for him
but Santee was
taken away to go to prison
and that’s when
Kenny actually
had a shot to live a normal life away from his mom
so Santee only got a 5 year prison
sentence and they determined that her boyfriend Ken
senior he wasn’t involved in any way
so she goes away
and then while she’s away
Kenny and his father they actually like grew really
close together
Ken senior he decided to
like he retired so he was home to really take care of
Kenny and he enrolled
him into a private
elite Catholic
school in Las Vegas and
Kenny was able to like go to
school and make friends and just be
quote unquote normal
even though he’s
going to an
elite private
school but yeah normal
kenny’s father also
admitted like that he
spoiled Kenny during this time
and he was trying to like buy his love
but that didn’t last long
santee was released from prison
in December of 1989
and she had only served
3 years of the 5 years that she was sentenced
and the old patterns of control
emerge again
so in the fall of 1993
Kenny enrolls into college
he seems to be
doing well kind of like away from his
mother but then in 1993
Ken SR dies
suddenly from an aneurysm
now when this happened
Santee was really
worried because she
didn’t have her name on anything not one deed not one
checkbook or even a credit card here’s his wife of a
multi millionaire
who has no access to any of the
money or his
money whatsoever
Ken sr’s will
it was said that
everything was to go to his children
from his previous marriage
but did not include
Kenny Jr or
Santee at all
fucked up I think
maybe he just forgot to update it but so Sante
she like calls
Kenny her son who’s at college now
and she just is telling him how
worried she is she
doesn’t have any
money what is she
gonna do and
really just dumps all of
her stress onto him
so then Kenny
he ends up just
dropping out of college
and he returns home to live with Santee
help take care of her
so Kenny begins taking part in more of his mother’s
schemes as she
tries to liquidate the
assets of her now past
lovers estate
so back to Los Angeles investigators are
suspicious Sante
and Kenny chimes
but they need to find a motive
cause remember the
death we talked
about in the beginning they
think it’s Sante and
Kenny chimes right
I’m wondering if how I’m
setting this up is confusing we’re already here police
piece together
the details of
the loan fraud
scheme santee
took a $280,000 loan out on her house
in David castin’s name
David received a loan book in the mail from this bank
saying that he now
owed a certain amount of
money every
month for a loan that he had
taken out on
that house so
when David got this in the mail he’s like what the fuck
David tells the bank that the mortgage is not his
and then the bank
freezes the account police discover the
money had been
transferred to an account belonging to Santee
so then Santee
somehow figures out that somebody has cotton on to her
she calls and threatens
David Castin
to go along with the loan
fraud or else
so police at this
point now are like okay we have a motive for
David castin’s murder
so they go out to the Las Vegas
house the one that the loan
was taken out
and they find it is the subject of an
arson investigation
you see the
house it was set on fire
and burned down
santee and Kenny at that
point were long gone and had
moved somewhere new
so police went
to interview the notary public that had forged
David caston’s name
on the loan documents
now this person had been told by
Santee that
she had the
power of attorney to sign
David kasdan’s name to the loan documents
which in fact
was not true this person also goes on to tell them that
she notarized a new deed for the same
house with the name
Robert Mccarran
so police go looking for this
Robert guy and they’re
having a really hard time finding him they believe that
Robert was a possible
victim of kidnapping
so police find this 911 call that
Robert had made
after escaping from
Santee and kenny’s home
remember how I said that the one of the maids had
escaped from the
house and called 911
well that was Robert
they were able to locate
Robert Mccarran
at a homeless shelter so
Robert tells investigators that
Santee hired him as a
houseman what do you call a man made
made so Robert tells investigators Santee
also hired a man
named Sean to be the family chauffeur
Sean was told by
Santee to watch
Robert the house elf
and to keep control of him and was told to assault
Robert when he wasn’t doing what
Santee instructed him to do
this chauffeur guy was
in charge of
Robert and making
sure that he was like following the rules and like
would beat him and
stuff forge hold on detectives then
look for this guy Sean the chauffeur
Sean he admits he sold
Kenny a 22 caliber handgun
and the 22 caliber that
Kenny had purchased matt from
David castin’s body so he agrees to let police know
if he hears from
Santee and Kenny again
but other than
that he really had nothing else for them police soon
learned through questioning witnesses
that the 2 were now in Florida
they had made
their way all the way to Florida
they ended up in Florida
because Santee and
Kenny were making
their way to the Bahamas
where Ken SR
his money was
apparently he had an offshore
count in the Bahamas
where he stored a lot of
money and Santee
wanted her hands on that
but before LA police
could get out to Florida
Santee and Kenny
are on the move
again they both realized that there are much bigger
targets in New York City
and there is a lot more
money over there
for example
Irene Silverman
who was 82 years old Irene was a New York socialite
santee and Kenny
found out that Irene
Silverman had a
multi million dollar mansion
on the Upper East Side
she had rented out
rooms partly for
money and partly for company so Irene
her extremely
wealthy husband had passed away
and again it was like put in a magazine
and that’s how Lexante
found out we
gotta stop doing that
she found out that the Cyrene lady
she had took on
all of her husband’s wealth
she was just loading and then
on June 14th 1998
Santee and Kenny
they arrive in New York
Kenny goes straight to the townhouse
and he shows up there with a
reference and 6 000
cash for the first
month’s rent Irene
she did ask
Kenny for an ID and to get a credit application
but Kenny kept reassuring her that he was
gonna get it to her ASAP
tomorrow yeah I’m
gonna get that to you
so Kenny then moves into the
apartment 1B
He does this
under the name Manny
Guerin a few days
later eva his assistant
moves in as well
and this Eva assistant
was actually his mom
Santee they wanted
to get rid of Irene
steal her identity
and then be able to take over irene’s finances so they
could be rich
wealthy and just
live their life that was the plan but Irene
she’s suspicious
you see she goes back and she asks
Kenny aka Manny
can you complete this credit application
and every time she asks he says like oh yeah I’m
gonna get you tomorrow
and then Irene
also notices
that whenever
kenny’s like walking in the hallway or leaving his
apartment he’s
avoiding the security cameras
he was always trying to stay
close to the walls and he
avoided showing his face on the cameras too
Irene then like confides and friends
about the strange new tenants in One B
Then she decides
to evict them
on July 5th
so then back in Los Angeles Stan
so he contacts police
says that he received a call from Santee
in New York and that she wanted him to come out there
so he could manage
an apartment
building that she was getting
santee suggested that he brings
his toys she meant
to bring his
collection of guns
so police decide to use Stan
okay and they arrange a sting operation
for Stan to fly to New York
meet with Santee and
Kenny at which
point police were
gonna grab the 2 and take them into custody
once New York police
have them in custody
they’re gonna fly them back to LA
for questioning those
dan plans to meet
Kenny and Sante at a hotel
so New York
police set up surveillance at the
hotel around
5 p m Sante and
Kenny show up police they waited for the perfect moment
and then they
moved in for
their arrest
now at that same time across town
the New York police are called to the
house of Irene
Silverman now Irene
was missing
Irene hadn’t
taken a step outside of her Manhattan
townhouse by herself in 15 years
so when she was missing that day it raised
alarms immediately
her rental agent called the police that day
and the workers
quickly suggested
to police that they look into the tenant of One Bee
detectives want to talk to this mysterious
Manny Garen
but they are
completely unaware
that the Manny guy was really
Kenny who just got arrested across town
so the next day
Irene silverman’s disappearance
hits the papers
and eyewitnesses are able to give the police
a description
of the tenant
that was living in 1B
and then a sketch is made up
they release the
sketch of Manny
and they put it out there
one of the federal
agents who had arrested
Kenny and Santee
he realized the
sketch of this Manny guy looks exactly like that guy
Kenny look just like him this
point New York police question Santee and
Kenny they deny
any knowledge
of Irene Silverman
don’t know her
never live there who
so the next day police they locate
Santee and kenny’s car and
inside where they find a 45
caliber gun
there was a
large black
nylon bag found
in the trunk
they also find a date rate drug a stun gun
a 9mm Glock
22 000 in cash
forged social
security cards
and a forged document giving them
power of attorney in Irene
silverman’s name
a lot of forging
going on they also
found a set of 13 spiral notebooks
santee kept
the spiral notebooks and had pages and pages of notes
one entry said
quote get social security number
elderly people
easy targets
end quote the
notebooks also contained information relating to the
David Kasdan murder
the most significant pages in
sante’s notebook were the entries that stated
kill D K Who
could DK be
David Kasdan
a few weeks later
LAPD detectives
arrive in New York hoping to get a confession
for the murder of Mr Kasdan
but their case is weak
they have a motive
but no witnesses
and no weapon
David Kasdan was shot with a 22
caliber handgun
but none of the guns
found in their car
matched the murder weapon
so police then locate
Shawn talk to him
again because his name was mentioned
again and again in
sant’s notebooks
Shawn then goes on to say that
early one morning
Kenny came and picked
Shawn up they
drove out to
David kasdan’s house
Shawn didn’t know who
David Kasdan was
but Kenny told
Shawn just to like wait outside
so like Shawn is just waiting there
and he hears a pop like a loud
pop like a gunshot
Kenny comes outside and tells
Shawn to come into the
house and when
Shawn walks into the
house he sees
David Kasdan
lying on the
kitchen floor
Kenny told Shawn to
go out to the
driveway and to back in
David kasdan’s car into the garage
and they could load
david’s body into the
trunk Kenny
loads the body and they put him in the back of
David casson’s own vehicle
and then look
Kenny and Sean
leave david’s body
and car near the airport
they throw the gun
down the sewer
and then they make
one last stop he
drove to a floral
shop on the way home and they purchased a bouquet
of flowers for
kenny’s mom
so now police investigators have this new information
the detectives they
drive back to
david’s home
and they conduct
a luminol test
so they do this
luminal test
and they see that there was evidence of
blood in the kitchen
proving that
shawn’s story has credibility
awesome so finally
the LA prosecutors
have a case
with Shawn as
their star witness
so on December 16th 1998
Santee and Kenny
are in New York and they are facing 84
separate charges
including the
second degree murder
of Irene Silverman
the New York murder case was
kind of rough there was no body
there was no confession
and there was no DNA
and both had pled not guilty
it was all circumstantial evidence they did have
125 witnesses
but they knew without a body
it was gonna be hard to prove
and finally on May 18th of 2000
Santee and Kenny were
found guilty
on all counts
how they did it I don’t know but they did I
think it was the
125 witnesses
that really sealed the deal together
they’re sentenced
to nearly 250 years in prison and Santee
she launched this
media campaign to try to convince the
press that she was innocent she
claimed that the evidence was
planted and that the police had framed her
now you can
watch clips of her
having these meltdowns I didn’t do it
how could the police do this to me
I feel bad for the American
people like she was
you kind of want to believe her you’re like yeah lady
yeah she’s a
great actress
she should have been an actress
back in California
officials announced plans
to have the both of them
to stand trial for the murder of
David Kasdan
so in the meantime before that in
October of 2000
Kenny was doing an interview
with Court TV
now in this interview
Kenny had just snapped
he rushed the reporter he held her hostage
Kenny was able to grab all
point pen and
press it to her
throat he demanded that his mother
not be sent to California
where the 2 were
going to face the
death penalty
so he’s holding this lady hostage for 4 hours
4 hours of negotiation
Kenny finally removed the pen
from the reporter’s
throat negotiators had created some kind of distraction
and wrestle
Kenny to the ground I mean he was already
found guilty he probably was like fuck it
finally in 2004 the
trial begins for the murder of
David Kasdan and
suddenly prosecutors are
blindsided because
their star witness
Sean remember the one who was like yeah I was there
he disappears he just vanishes
Sean was their main witness people are just panicking
but luckily luckily
a few days later
Kenny decides to talk
Kenny agrees to testify
against his
mother only if neither of them will receive the
death penalty
so over the course of
3 days Kenny confesses to the murders
and tells detectives that
David was going to report them
and Santee wanted him dead
he described in detail how he and his
mother Santee
had lied and stayed in the
building owned by Irene
and they’re like oh shit finally we’re
going to hear what happened to Irene
would stay in his
apartment one being
right and they
could see everything that was
going on from like the little peephole
on their door
and they were waiting
for the perfect time to attack Irene
so they were just
watching her through the peephole
they see Irene
walking down the hallway
alone they’re like this is the perfect time
Kenny open the door
santee used a
stun gun on
poor Irene and
Kenny with his bare hands
strangled Irene to
death he and Santee
then placed her in a
large duffel bag then put
her in their
vehicle and
transported her several
miles away dumped her body
in a dumpster
behind a gas station
Kenny testifies
against his
mother he pleads
guilty and is sentenced to life
santee she represents herself and pleads not guilty
she stood by that she
claimed that the cops
threatened her son with the
death penalty and forced him to make a
false confession
and that her
trial was just like the
Salem witch
trials and she
claimed that the prosecutors
were guilty for
murdering the Constitution I’m serious
you guys see her theatrics
murdering the Constitution of the American people
she’s very dramatic the judge then
ordered Sante
not to speak
he’s like you’re
done talking he also tells her she’s not allowed to
speak to the
media because she was calling the
media people all the goddamn time
the judge felt that
Santee was attempting to
influence the jury
as they may have seen or
heard interviews she was giving out
smart anyways in the end
Sante is convicted of
first degree murder
in the case of
David Casdin
on July 7th of 2004
she was sentenced to life in prison
at the correctional facility in New York
this day they
still have not
found irene’s body
which is awful
and Kenny like also sentenced to life in prison
and is currently
at a correctional facility
in California santee
she ended up
dying of natural
causes in May of 2014
some believe that Kenny
should have gotten a
lighter sentence
they think that his life
would have followed
a different path it hadn’t been for his
mother her controlling ways
only did these
things because his mother
brainwashed him and convinced him to go
along with her
crimes tati had
never confessed
to any of the
crimes even to the day she died
which is like lady just give it up at that
point just give it up
naturally Hollywood
was like yes we need to make this into a movie
2001 a made for TV
movie called like
Mother Like Son
it starred married
Tyler Moore as Santee
that was pretty
successful movie
and then another
movie in 2006
about the case
it was called A Little
Thing Called Murder
and that was a Lifetime
movie so you know that was cheesy
and good and then in 2009 they even had their own
feature on Dateline
so that is the
story of Santee and
Kenny Chimes
they called them the
mother daughter Bonnie and Clyde
I hope that wasn’t too confusing
it seems like
Santee she just wanted to be rich
and she went
after that goal
in her life and I just want to let you guys know that
you know you just need to set better goals for yourself
like if you want to be rich that’s
great that’s awesome
but maybe like
earn it not kill people for it and
steal their money
that’s my advice for you let me know what you guys
think of this case do you
think Kenny
should get an easier sentence
but other than that
I hope you have a wonderful day
today you make good choices
and I will see you guys later bye