Our card this week is Jennifer Wilson, the Nine of Diamonds from Kansas.

In 2002, 29-year-old Jennifer vanished without a trace

after getting into a heated argument with her living girlfriend.

For over two decades, Jennifer’s disappearance has puzzled the community.

Because even though investigators think they know who’s responsible,

they’ve struggled to come up with the answers

to the two remaining questions in her case.

What happened, and where is Jennifer?

I’m Ashley Flowers, and this is The Deck.

It was just after 6 p.m. on March 29, 2004,

when the Sedgwick County Sheriff’s Office got a call from a distressed mother.

Her name was Paulette Mattingly,

and she said that her daughter was missing.

Paulette said she hadn’t seen or heard from her daughter Jennifer in 18 months.

Now, Jennifer was a full-on adult.

In fact, her 31st birthday was just days away.

And Paulette said that even though they lived in the same county,

they didn’t really communicate a ton.

It wasn’t like the two of them had a strained relationship.

It’s just that life was busy,

and on top of that,

they worked conflicting shifts.

So it wasn’t unusual for them to go months without talking.

But over a year,

Paulette thought that was a bit much.

And there was something else adding to her worry.

I couldn’t get a hold of Brenda.

And I called her, and she would never return my calls.

Brenda Leonard was Jennifer’s longtime girlfriend.

Paulette told the deputy this was strange

because she and Brenda used to be in pretty regular contact.

They actually started keeping in touch

around the time that Paulette last saw her daughter.

It all started in September of 2002,

when Brenda showed up at Paulette’s house in tears.

Brenda came over,

and she told me, crying,

that she had an argument with Jennifer,

and Jennifer and her, they got really upset.

And so she just left in the car for a while.

And when she came back, Jennifer was gone.

Well, I could understand them getting mad enough

to just want to get away from each other for a while.

And so that’s one thing.

I believed everything Brenda told me.

She cried and carried on and all this stuff.

And then she would come back a couple of days later

and see if I’d heard from Jennifer.

Well, I hadn’t.

Brenda also mentioned that Jennifer had left behind

her beloved German shepherd named Sadie,

and Paulette knew how much that dog meant to her daughter.

There was no way she would abandon Sadie forever,

no matter how mad she was at Brenda.

So at the time, Paulette thought for sure

Jennifer would just pop back up again.

It’s just a matter of time.

But Jennifer didn’t pop back up.

Over the coming months,

Brenda would check in with Paulette

to see if she’d heard from Jennifer,

and Paulette would check in with Brenda,

but neither of them ever did hear from her.

Brenda would also go over to Paulette’s place

just to cry and talk about how much she missed Jennifer.

But as time went on,

Brenda’s communication with Paulette grew less frequent.

She’d call for big things,

like to tell Paulette that Jennifer’s dog, Sadie,

had been hit by a car and died.

But by August 2003,

Brenda’s communication had stopped altogether.

Paulette said she grew worried.

So that fall, as sort of a last ditch effort,

she tried to contact Brenda

the only other way she could think of.

And so I called where she worked,

and they said, oh, she doesn’t work here anymore.

I go, oh, and she didn’t even tell me.

Paulette waited a few more months

hoping that Brenda would reach back out.

But by mid-March 2004, she was tired of waiting.

So she contacted a mutual friend of Brenda and Jennifer’s

to see if she had heard anything

from either of them recently.

And what this woman said made Paulette’s stomach drop.

The friend said that Brenda had been telling people

that Jennifer wasn’t missing,

and that Paulette had actually told her

Jennifer moved to Kansas City.

Understandably, this gives Paulette a very bad feeling,

one that she couldn’t shake.

So about a week later,

she decided that it was time to contact police.

Paulette told the deputy

that she knew something wasn’t right.

And authorities had a bad feeling too.

And because they were already 18 months behind the ball,

they wasted no time jumping into a full-scale investigation.

And naturally, the first item on their checklist

was to find Brenda, which actually proved to be a challenge.

She was no longer living at the home

that she and Jennifer had once shared.

And she was no longer working at the then Angels nightclub

where she’d been a bouncer for a long time.

It kind of seemed like she just dropped off

the face of the earth.

But investigators didn’t give up.

As they were looking into Brenda, they got an idea.

She does dialysis.

She was doing it three times a week.

And I knew where she got her dialysis.

And they were there waiting for her when she came in for it.

Investigators got Brenda to agree to an interview.

And she came down to the station to answer their questions.

She told investigators that she and Jennifer

had gotten into a fight back in September, 2002.

She didn’t clarify what they were arguing about,

but Brenda said that she left the house

and drove around in Jennifer’s car for a bit

just to cool off.

And when she came back, Jennifer was just gone.

Now Jennifer’s stuff was all there,

like her clothing and again, her dog.

But Jennifer herself had vanished

and then just never returned.

Brenda made it seem like after that,

she just kind of continued on with life as normal.

Well, almost normal.

During the five hour long interview,

investigators somehow got it out of Brenda

that she had stolen Jennifer’s identity.

She was actually using her social security number

to work at a new job

and get Jennifer’s social security checks.

It’s almost like she knew Jennifer wouldn’t be using

her social security number herself

or collecting her own checks.

As if that wasn’t a big enough red flag on its own,

Brenda also got caught in a lie.

She told me that one thing had happened to Jennifer’s dog

and she told the sheriff’s department

a totally different thing.

And I had, the only reason that we know that that was a lie

is because one of them is a lie, one of them may be true.

Even on top of the social security thing,

this lie wasn’t enough for police to prove

that she’d done something to Jennifer

or even knew more than she was letting on.

But it certainly added to their suspicion

because if she was lying about that,

what else was she lying about?

Well, it was gonna be hard to find out.

Here’s investigator Jeremy Knoll

with the Sedgwick County Sheriff’s office.

Somebody knocked at the door during the interview

and the detective had to step out.

And when he came back in to continue the interview,

she basically said, I wanna talk to my attorney.

I don’t wanna talk to you anymore.

Of course, she didn’t have to talk with police.

She had the right to remain silent

and the right to an attorney,

but her sudden refusal to cooperate left investigators

wondering why she stopped talking

and what she wasn’t telling them.

I was told after they’d talked to Brenda

that they didn’t believe she left on her own

and they thought something bad had happened.

But I didn’t wanna believe it was that she was dead.

I did not wanna believe that.

Paulette thought there was a chance

Jennifer was still out there alive.

In fact, she had an idea of where she might be.

You see, Paulette had adopted Jennifer when she was a baby.

And for the past several years,

Jennifer had wanted to seek out and meet her birth family.

Paulette was always supportive of this,

but they had trouble tracking down her biological parents.

So Paulette thought maybe Jennifer had suddenly found them

and that’s where she had disappeared to.

Maybe she was with her birth family, wherever they were.

So I did look for them.

And if I had known how easy it was,

I would have done it way sooner.

All I had to do, I knew her last name,

I knew the town where she was born,

and I looked online and I got the names and addresses

of everybody that lived in that little town

that had that last name.

And I wrote, I sent a letter to every one of them,

telling them what I was looking for and why.

And within four days,

I had three people call me all in one day,

her father, her grandmother, and her aunt.

Sadly though, Jennifer’s birth family

hadn’t seen or heard from her either.

Like Paulette, the sheriff’s office

was also coming up empty with their investigation.

They had searched the house

Brenda and Jennifer lived in back in 2002,

but found nothing of value there.

I think it hurt us really a lot too

that we were so far behind the ball on this cold case

because when it was reported to us,

I think there had already been two other occupants

that had lived in that home.

So whatever evidence may have been there

was completely gone at the time that we actually got this.

With or without physical evidence though,

detectives were convinced something had happened to Jennifer

and that she didn’t just up and leave on her own.

Police spent the following months

tracking down and interviewing people

who knew Jennifer and Brenda.

They wanted to know what their relationship was like

and what Brenda had been telling other people

about Jennifer’s disappearance.

There were a couple of old acquaintances of theirs

that worked at the Angels at the time

that Jennifer and Brenda both worked there.

These acquaintances told detectives

they remembered the day Jennifer disappeared well

because there was an argument between her and Brenda

leading up to her disappearance that started at work.

Their fight was so loud and so disruptive

that both were sent home.

Now, nobody could recall exactly what day that was,

but they said after that,

Jennifer stopped coming into work.

Some of them said, you know,

that they found it odd that Jennifer just wasn’t showing up

so they’d ask Brenda,

hey, where’s Jennifer?

And Brenda would say the same thing.

We had a fight, I came back home, Jennifer’s gone.

Jennifer’s friends said she would have never left that dog.

She would have never left that dog at that house.

The fact that Jennifer left Sadie behind

wasn’t the only thing making coworkers

and friends suspicious.

You see, over the years,

Brenda had sort of developed a reputation.

People would say that Brenda was very rough

around the edges, very gruff, tough.

I mean, she was a bouncer at the Gentleman’s Club.

They said that she wore like combat boots all the time

and you just knew you didn’t fuck with Brenda.

Friends also said Brenda was a jealous person

with serious anger issues.

One of her former partners had even filed a PFA,

or Protection From Abuse, against Brenda at one point.

After learning all of this,

police were more confident than ever

that Brenda was lying about what happened with Jennifer.

So by the time fall of 2005 rolled around,

investigators were ready to talk to Brenda again.

They asked her to sit down for a polygraph,

but this was right around the time

that Brenda was being prosecuted

for illegally using Jennifer’s social security number.

So by this point, she had lawyered up.

And her lawyer, in no uncertain terms,

told investigators his client wasn’t willing to play ball.

After that, the investigation slowed to a screeching halt.

Investigators didn’t have a shred of physical evidence

and the one person they were confident held the answers

to their questions refused to talk.

Over the coming months and years,

police returned to Brenda and Jennifer’s old property

a few times with cadaver dogs, but nothing turned up

and the case remained pretty much motionless.

In June, 2013, more than a decade

after Paulette had last seen Jennifer,

Paulette had her daughter legally declared dead.

She told the Wichita Eagle

that it wasn’t a decision she took lightly

because she was initially so hopeful

that Jennifer was out there somewhere.

But as the years passed with no sign of her,

she knew the likelihood of that was dwindling

and she was forced to accept the fact

that her daughter was never coming home.

Paulette missed so much about Jennifer,

the way she would randomly write her letters

or love on any animal that she found

or light up a room with one of her jokes or pranks.

Paulette would often think back

to one of her favorite memories of an elaborate prank

that Jennifer pulled on her friends back in high school.

Jennifer was setting up a deal to have people,

she was interviewing them,

but when she played it back, she played different questions

and so she was getting them to answer one way,

which would make sense,

but then when she put in her own voices later,

it made them look really stupid.

So those are the kind of things

she would do with her friends, you know, laughing,

but they had a great time that night.

They set up all sorts of little gimmicks

where they would catch each other in a embarrassing,

hopefully embarrassing.

It was memories like that Paulette clung to

as the investigation fizzled

and she began to lose hope that she’d ever know

what happened to her daughter.

But then in 2014, the Sedgwick County Sheriff’s Office

dove headfirst into a cold case initiative.

They dusted off Jennifer’s file and poured over it

with fresh eyes,

seeing if there was any more that they could do

or if there was anything missed

in the initial investigation.

And they decided, yes, there still was plenty they could do.

I mean, for starters, no one from their team

had even spoken to Brenda in 10 years.

That’s a long time for a guilty conscience

to eat away at someone.

So in 2016, they tracked her down

and went to have an informal conversation with her.

Two of our detectives went to the house

and just kind of talked to her.

You know, hey, we wanted to talk to you about Jennifer.

They weren’t there very long.

One of the detectives used the word

s*** or crap or something.

And she said, oh, I’m offended by your language, get out.

After being kicked out by Brenda,

investigators knew that they were gonna have a hard time

getting her to talk anymore.

So they started to shake the tree a bit.

So we started interviewing a bunch of her close friends.

And what was really interesting about that

was most of her close friends had heard of Jennifer.

They’d heard the name,

but each group of friends was told a different story

about where Jennifer was.

That A, she disappeared.

B, Brenda said, I saw her up in Kansas City a few years ago.

Another story was that, oh yeah,

I just talked to her a few years ago.

I think she’s up in Northeast Kansas somewhere.

Other friends said Brenda told them

she’d talked to Jennifer pretty recently.

It was clear that she was telling different people

different things.

While it was certainly helpful to learn about Brenda’s lies,

they already knew she was a liar.

That wasn’t helping.

But when one door closes, a window opens,

or maybe you pry open the door, whatever you need to do.

Either way, there was someone close to Brenda

that they really hadn’t talked to before now.

And they thought that person

might have some important info.

And that’s Brenda’s nephew, who we’re gonna call Dominic.

Detectives knew that Brenda was super close to Dominic.

They knew Brenda and Jennifer

had practically raised Dominic’s stepson.

So if Brenda had actually done something to Jennifer,

Dominic had to know something,

or maybe he even had a hand in helping her.

Investigators started trying to track him down,

but that proved to be much harder a task than they thought.

At one point, they were sure that they’d found him

in a prison in Dallas, Texas.

I mean, the inmate at the prison

had the same name and same birthdate as Dominic,

so investigators flew out to interview him.

But when they started talking to this guy,

they realized this wasn’t the Dominic

that they were looking for.

The inmate was from Texas,

said he’d never been anywhere but Texas,

and his entire criminal history was in Texas.

He clearly wasn’t Brenda’s nephew.

It took a bit more sleuthing,

but eventually detectives did find the right Dominic.

We started actually doing some surveillance on him,

just watching him.

We eventually asked him to come in for an interview

because we started to gather some information about him.

So we called him in for an interview a couple of times.

And each time, he was just a little standoffish.

You could tell he was being deceptive

in some of his questions.

So we did what’s called a geographic polygraph.

I’d never heard of it until this.

So what we did was a polygraphist from the KBI came down,

and we set up the interview room

with the polygraphist at his table and his machine.

And on the wall was a big map of the property.

And the property was sectioned off

into, I think, five different sections.

And just, you know, I’m not gonna put words in his mouth,

but to summarize what he did was basically he said,

you know, okay, did something happen

to Jennifer in Quadrant A?

Did anything happen to Jennifer in Quadrant B?

You know, did you have anything to do

with Jennifer’s disappearance in Quadrant A?

And, you know, questions like that.

We have a picture of the map

that the Kansas Bureau of Investigation

used in this interview.

That’s in the blog post for this episode.

You can find that at thedeckpodcast.com.

To give you a bit of context,

the property Jennifer and Brenda lived at in 2002 was massive.

There was a house, a barn, a big fenced-in pasture,

and this huge field.

Like we’re talking five acres in total.

Although Dominic claimed to know nothing

about something happening to Jennifer on that property,

the polygraph indicated deception

on Dominic’s response to Quadrant B.

That’s the quadrant of the map with the barn in it.

So armed with a failed polygraph,

detectives swooped in and began questioning him,

but he wouldn’t break

and he wouldn’t admit to knowing anything.

And because police had nothing to hold him on,

they had to let him go once the interview was done.

Detectives did later go and search that area

of the property with cadaver dogs,

but Investigator Knoll said that they didn’t find anything.

After that, there was another lull in the investigation.

But this time, the standstill would only last two years

because in 2018,

the Cedric County Sheriff’s Office got a call.

So we had somebody come forward and say,

hey, got information on this cold case,

and the information seemed very credible.

Making the tip even more credible

was the fact that the story this tipster told

was one investigators had heard before.

One of the stories that came out was

they believed that Jennifer may have been buried

below the deck, the back deck of the house.

And that was just a hunch that people had.

But as we heard that hunch,

then we heard other people saying,

oh yeah, I remember, you know,

the deck was being worked on on the back of the house.

Okay, well, that’s interesting.

Why were they working on the deck?

Well, it was just old and falling apart.

And there were a bunch of boards

just pulled out of the middle of the deck.

I remember that.

And I remember a pile of new lumber sitting on the side.

And yeah, I think Brenda’s nephew came over

and helped her rebuild the deck.

Okay, cool.

Well, that’s all interesting little pieces of information.

And then that’s when a gentleman came forward

and he said, hey, I’ve got this information

that I heard it directly from this person

who said he helped bury a body under this deck.

So it was good info.

Investigator Knoll wouldn’t say for sure

if the person this guy implicated was Dominic,

but he did confirm the person the guy named was,

quote, closely related to the suspect.

Now, it’s worth noting that the back deck of the house

was in a different quadrant of the map

than the area where Dominic showed deception

during the polygraph in 2016.

But at this point, investigators had heard the deck story

from so many different people,

they figured there had to be some validity to it.

And I keep thinking, who’s to say they’re both not true?

Maybe something happened in quadrant B,

but then her body was hidden

in whatever quadrant the deck was in.

Or option C, polygraphs don’t mean much.

Either way, detectives got a search warrant for the house

and they got the homeowners permission

to do a thorough search

that involved completely destroying the deck.

Once they demolished it, they dug and they dug.

But after about six feet of digging, investigators gave up.

They found nothing.

We asked investigator Noel why they called it quits

after digging that far,

and he said that they figured there was no chance

Brenda or Brenda plus another person

would have dug more than six feet,

especially under a deck to bury a body.

Even though they didn’t find anything by digging that day,

they didn’t leave the property empty-handed.

It was in this search

where they removed the back sliding glass door

from the home.

They found traces of what they believed to be blood

on the bottom of the door.

Investigators collected what they could of the substance,

sent it off for testing,

and waited for the results with their fingers crossed.

If they could prove it was Jennifer’s blood,

that would be huge for the investigation.

I mean, it would be the icing on the cake

for a case against Brenda.

It took months to get the results back,

and when they did, it wasn’t what anyone was hoping for.

The lab said that the sample was too small.

They couldn’t even find a partial DNA profile,

let alone a full one,

which meant that it couldn’t be matched to Jennifer.

In fact, the sample was so small

that they couldn’t even 100% prove it was blood.

With the dead-end deck tip

and some disappointing lab results in the rearview mirror,

investigators decided to look

into another potential lead uncovered

during their rounds of interviews.

And this one was another story

that they’d heard repeated a few times.

So in all these interviews,

we heard it in two or three different interviews

that, oh, we heard Jennifer’s body was taken to a pig farm

and then, you know, devoured by the pigs at the farm.

And then in one of those interviews,

somebody talked about this pig farm

because I guess it was kind of a party area.

And they would go back here and just drink,

you know, bonfire, whatever, just have a good time.

Investigators looked into the pig farm,

which, from Brenda and Jennifer’s old home,

was about 27 miles away.

And this farm was pretty expansive.

Like, we’re talking something like 20 acres.

So they knew it would be a massive,

all-hands-on-deck search to scour the entire property.

Still, they felt strongly enough

that Jennifer’s body might be there

that they wanted to give it a go.

But they didn’t get beyond the planning process.

When we talked with folks that have the cadaver dogs

about going out here, they said no.

They either couldn’t or wouldn’t run the dogs

at this old pig farm

because, basically, they’re just gonna alert

to the entire place.

Yeah, the cadaver dogs would just alert to the entire place.

Why?

Because of the years of pig feces,

dead pigs, X, Y, and Z.

They were also concerned about just whatever hazards

may be out there for their dogs.

And then, you know, talking with some people,

I’ve been told that pigs would devour bones and all.

There would be, if you put a body in there,

it’s gonna be gone.

They’re gonna eat every bit of it.

Without cadaver dogs,

searching the property would have been virtually impossible.

So investigators were back to square one

with their once long list of potential leads now dwindling.

What wasn’t dwindling was detectives’ suspicion

that Brenda was involved in Jennifer’s disappearance.

So they decided to have a chat

with the district attorney’s office.

It was kind of just an informal conversation

is what we ended up having,

where a bodiless homicide,

trying to prosecute that is very difficult,

I think, in any jurisdiction.

And I was the one,

I was really screaming from the rooftops, you know,

that look at all the circumstantial we have.

I know it’s all circumstantial, but good Lord,

how much more circumstantial can you throw together?

Throw this in front of a jury and let them hag it out,

you know, let them look at it and see what they think.

I don’t know.

I know that probable cause and, you know, people’s freedoms,

and I take that very seriously.

The conclusion the DA’s office came to

was that there wasn’t enough evidence yet to prosecute.

They’d need either a body or more circumstantial evidence

to have a strong case.

And I get it.

I understand where they’re coming from.

You know, trying to prosecute a bodiless homicide

is very difficult for them.

While the sheriff’s office started looking for fresh ways

to uncover new evidence,

Paulette was also trying out new avenues

to get justice for her daughter.

In 2019, she began talking with a psychic.

The psychic told Paulette

that she knew where Jennifer’s body was buried.

She said it was in a field,

somewhere you could look west and see the sunset,

somewhere close to a fence and near some trees.

Everything the psychic described matched the area

Paulette had long suspected her daughter was hidden,

that big open field behind Brenda and Jennifer’s old house.

The psychic actually asked to visit the field,

so Paulette took her there.

And she had these rods for like,

you put in your itch for water,

if you’ve seen some of that,

and the rods are inside of a little tube.

She’s not touching the rods with her hands.

And the wind was blowing horribly as it does in Kansas.

And it was blowing, let’s see,

it was blowing towards the north, I guess,

out of the south.

And it was blowing the rods all the time,

they kept blowing that direction.

And she was walking, and when she hit this one spot,

those things started swinging and they stopped,

dead stopped and would not move.

And so we marked that area.

Paulette told investigators about the psychic’s revelation,

and it wasn’t long before detectives went back out

to the property to dig.

To everyone’s disappointment, though,

they once again didn’t find anything.

But Paulette still believes that her daughter

is out there in the field,

because even though they did lots of digging that day,

she said that they didn’t dig in the exact spot

that the psychic marked.

She has helped other people find bodies.

So I know that, you know,

she’s got some kind of skills and talents in that.

And so I keep thinking, you know,

maybe that is where she’s buried.

Since that search in 2019,

there has been little public movement in Jennifer’s case.

But that doesn’t mean law enforcement or Paulette

have stopped pushing for closure.

People talk about closure,

and that’s something I have not had the kind of closure

that you have when you go to a funeral.

And that has been hard to deal with,

because it’s like people don’t know,

or they don’t care,

because they never responded that way

like they would have at a funeral.

But it’s just because nobody really knew for sure when.

I really don’t even care about the justice anymore.

I don’t care.

What I really want is being able to find her remains

and put them out in Western Kansas in the cemetery

where my grandparents are buried,

where my aunts and uncles are buried,

and where I’m going to be buried right next to her.

That would be closure.

And I’ve thought about that a lot.

Paulette also thinks a lot about

what her daughter would be like now, 20 years later.

I miss her.

I miss her now that I’m older,

that I feel like, you know,

our relationship would be so much different now.

She would be 49, yeah, 49.

So, yeah, we would have a totally different

kind of relationship now.

My daughter was not meant to die at 29 years old.

So, you just,

sometimes I just have to pull over and stop the car

if I’m driving.

Sometimes I’m driving down

and it’s close to where she used to live,

or I have a memory of us being there

and doing something fun.

Then I have to stop.

The sheriff’s office has far from given up hope

for solving Jennifer’s case.

In fact, investigator Knoll said

that they recently got a promising tip.

Now, he wouldn’t elaborate on what that tip was

because he said they need to look into it more,

but he seemed excited about it.

Knoll also said that he doesn’t think

prosecuting a bodiless homicide is out of the question.

If the circumstantial evidence continues piling up,

they won’t shy away from it.

He also said trying to talk to Brenda again

isn’t out of the question either.

They think she’s living in Georgia now

and they’re gonna try talking with her again sometime soon.

So, whether that recent tip leads to something

or they push to prosecute

with the pile of circumstantial evidence

that they already have,

the sheriff’s office has a good feeling

that justice isn’t too far out of their reach for this case.

We asked investigator Knoll

what he thinks truly happened to Jennifer

in September of 2002.

I think they had a fight, they had an argument.

Brenda is an overbearing, very powerful person physically.

Jennifer is not.

I think that they had an argument

and somehow Brenda killed her.

And then it’s up for debate.

I don’t know if Brenda buried her herself,

asked for help to bury Jennifer,

took her somewhere else and buried her.

I think it was purposeful.

I believe that Brenda’s jealous of a lot of things.

And I think that she’s just jealous

of Jennifer being pretty, popular.

Other people liked her.

And I bet you that that was the motivator

for Brenda to kill her is, you know, argument,

something about some jealousy going on.

And I don’t think at all that it was accidental.

I think if it was accidental,

we would have known that 20 years ago maybe.

I think completely intentionally she killed her.

I think the pig farm thing,

absolutely it’s a viable thing, absolutely.

But I don’t see that as much as I see

Brenda burying her somewhere on that property.

That’s what I see more.

Especially, I mean, that’s a rural area for the most part,

especially at dark, at dusk.

I mean, she could have drug her out into that pasture

and buried her and nobody been the wiser.

But that’s my personal opinion.

Paulette told our reporting team

that she hopes this podcast falls on the right ears

because she knows people out there

hold the answers to what happened to her daughter.

Answers to the questions

that have led to countless sleepless nights.

The questions that she spent over two decades

trying to figure out.

So I just feel like there’s somebody out there

that knows something they don’t know

that what they know is that important.

So any little tip is worth going

and talking to the sheriff’s department.

And yeah, this wouldn’t get emotional

because they think somebody knows something

and they need to help us.

I can’t believe she’s not let something slip,

that she said something that she knows more.

You know, somebody knows something too.

And I think there’s other people that know things

and they don’t realize that that clue plus another clue

put together might be just what

the sheriff’s department needs

to find out where Jennifer’s buried.

And another thing about this whole thing too

is that I prayed to God immediately

when I heard a lot of this.

I said, don’t let me be angry.

And I’ve never been angry at Brenda.

I don’t want to see her.

I don’t want to talk to her, but I don’t feel any anger.

And I think that God blessed me with that prayer

because, you know, I grieve,

but I said, don’t let me be angry

because I know that anger just eats me up.

It doesn’t hurt Brenda.

And whoever did it, I’m not angry at them.

I don’t know what happened.

It happened.

Just let me have her back.

You know, let me know where she is.

Paulette and the rest of Jennifer’s family

have waited over 20 years for answers.

Answers that maybe someone listening

to this podcast can provide.

If you know anything about the disappearance

of Jennifer Wilson between 2002 and 2004,

or if Brenda Leonard has ever talked to you

about Jennifer’s disappearance,

please call the Sedgwick County Sheriff’s Office

at 316-660-3799.

Or you can email.

We’re going to put that email in our show notes.

Jennifer was in her late twenties when she went missing.

She was a white woman, about 5'7 and 115 pounds.

She had blue eyes and long, curly brown hair.

She wore contacts, had a broken front tooth

that was repaired, and had scars on her waistline

and under her chin.

She normally wore baseball caps and sweatshirts.

If Jennifer’s still alive, she’d be 49 years old today,

and she would possibly be going by the name Sydney.

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