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ladies and gentlemen the International
2018 champions oh gee
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I’ll just tell you their strategy
because it doesn’t matter it’s not like
opening I like it doesn’t matter it
doesn’t impact anybody so they were just
saying like so originally mood was like
if we just caught waves what can they do
and it was really funny because the
backstage no tail said the exact same
thing he’s like if we call waves what
can they do and I was like you might
think that but this is a four core
lineup for opening I mean do that they
don’t think in that you know in that way
so it’s not like we need a support no
they need with something that we do
often see them if you look at net worth
distribution at the end of the game they
much less frequently have the serve
three core to support structure they’re
all sort of each other okay very very
selfless team yeah so the draft is done
we see the percentage there I mean they
only got like an extra what three
percent off the back of five euros
picked game number one of this best of
three is gonna is gonna start and it’s
gonna start real soon and it’s gonna
start with the voices of OD pixel and
capitalist open AI PI business oh gee
game one we see here this is gonna be
the open AI this is gonna we’re gonna
see how open AI is thinking about where
they’re gonna be going so this is gonna
be showing like green lines to show whet
what Lane they’re gonna be heading to
and where they want to go in the future
basically and then we’re also gonna have
little little health bars underneath
each one of the heroes that’s going to
demonstrate what the AI thinks about
their current situation and how likely
they are to be able to get kills how
likely they are to die so if you see a
super red bar pretty much means they’re
done for rone already up so the action
is kicking off is okay i will clean
first blood no town is to be caught out
here as the two teams meet head to head
and that top rune spawn we’ve got this
off later that kids survived pretty oh
geez look at that it’s already gone up
quite a bit since the drafting phase the
trash talk has already begun absolutely
og of course are the ultimate seamen use
the old chat functions to tilt the
teammates I’ll see if it works out here
against the AI and CM is really wants to
go back to those creeps but Jax will
make sure that she will not be unable to
do so for now leaving step on his own
down bottom ladyship can kill the
crystal maiden actually yeah they set it
up Thompson rotates over it
didn’t see that coming that’s exactly
the point they’ve got a Riki mid how
could she see that coming when he’s
invisible another team people come into
that bottom lane from the sniper AI
bringing him back up at the same time a
is going aggressive up top open AI
diving past the tower they’ll find notes
out but they don’t pretty deep for this
the open AI if the reaction will be
there from og they have both the combo
of the SF and the shaker to bring down
the gyrocopter will try and exploit will
see whether or not it works for them
because this is how deep sev is skipping
these creeps he should pay with his life
this time anyway as the CM is able to
put a stop it’s all though - she might
actually just deny the whole entire wave
now very close between the two you see
Jax he’s gonna look for a ramp round on
mate the setups there with the fissure
open hours blocked in nowhere the Deaf
prophet to run as that will be another
kill here but opsin on his Riki top lane
back towards more action open a I once
again looked at diving deep past the
tower with this gyrocopters Fang
combination they’ve got the beauty
restoration though OG notes now keeping
the two of them alive as oh jeez able to
turn bring down the Sven still although
trying for this SF jarred desperate for
the kill but he cat off and the heels
from no tail picking up the witchdoctor
we’ve seen how the harassment opening
eyes super good about being able to do
that into voodoo restoration is cutting
a lot of that out making these fights go
their way I can see the AI go in this
time with the help of the CM then look
at it leading on to the SF notice there
though again as you mentioned this
beauty restoration just making it that
little to half the AI to instantly kill
the SF they’ll get another stun out he’s
still alive though finally they get that
kill on to Ana they will finish up the
shadow fiend
they’re trying to see if they can find
him from or potentially open now as it
looks towards note sail with the rocket
barrage the jaracaca finds another this
time the open eye is getting away with
the aggression up top they realized it
wasn’t working with just the spend in
the Jaro
so they add in that crystal maiden and
it makes all the difference I remember
from experience we thought the the cast
was going to be good the paralyzing cast
was gonna be good against the I it is
not they know the spacing so well well I
have a great setup here in the middle
lane a little bit surprised they didn’t
try and dive that shadowfiend but I
guess the gyro did not have the mana
Christine Thompson with a quick jump
away will make sure that he doesn’t go
down in responses I can’t help but
thinking if you just frostbite as the
Gerry is getting gone upon and of a slow
comes out from the CM holding back
Gerak’s and Thompson but there’s a
Fisher another jump forward as og should
be able to find it closed nearly dies to
their rocket barrage but Thompson’s
prepared as soon as the gyro is dead
he’s got a South popped and it’s ready
to try and hunt for more again look at
the objectives right I was gonna say
this is gonna be super interesting to
see how they respond right there’s a big
dive going on the bottom lane but
there’s no creep wave the towers not
under attack so they see hey that’s not
worth it we’re not rotating to save a
hero we’re gonna make sure we take an
objective in that top lane instead see
back to was mid Thompson able to chase
down the sea on a big old comes out
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crystal maiden do it a big down there
and in fact they’re gonna get this SF as
well ana falls the crystal maiden going
big standing her ground committing with
the ultimate to get the tower spin is
incredibly low so it’s going to TP in a
try and find this kill for sure over out
the Viper stroke instance done from the
span will hold set back in position
is he gonna tick down to the point he’s
not this event they’ll survive and now
open augh and they turn onto SAP they’ll
get the Viper killed Hopson and Gerak’s
they’re still trying to desperately
chase it at least something here jump
for from Thompson tricks the trade it
won’t quite do it the chair is too
speedy he continues to retreat Thompson
is gonna try and chase this down he’s
got another jump forward and he will
finally be able to claim the life of the
gyrocopter
he’s really going for this kill again
another jump fourth the silence down
he’s trying to find it has he got the
damage or I mean he’ll get it but he
loses his life for it there as now I
would move here from og they found the
gyrocopter also found the CM blink
forward there from the two of them
they’ll chase down a second a double
kill picked up by Ana with og forcing
open our eyes reaction up top they know
that the Jarrah is pretty alone here
is trying to chase they’ve got the catch
with the Fisher and with that double
damage rune top someone had the damn is
it to be a media buyback in fact from
the gyrocopter oh jeez man it’s it’s a
buyback for what as open a ice Jarrah
can already get back a position to
punish og oh jeez already out there
Thompson actually he’s still trying to
make a go he’s gonna jump it he’s alive
for that one a very unnecessary play
there from Thompson at least from our
understanding of toda it is really
important to have those tomorrow so it’s
going for a pretty well I say ambitious
but he has got the help of Jarrett’s and
with that stunlock
that’ll be more than enough so I mean
that this friend isin enough up i back
now down and it seems like oh geez
founds a kind of pattern to take it to
the AI but they are gonna lose to here
again very aggressive plays a promote he
actually fool boy he nearly gets away
but will not be the case smart the gyro
ran back to give vision to the snipers
so he could actually get the the auto
attack you see in the middle jerax and
coach Sam’s gonna be used quick set up
in another instance buyback this team
open a I will not stay down they get
immediately back into the game as this
fan is in trouble they’re bringing back
up there’s gonna be so he’s having a
grab it but for the Spanish in fact
though matter they turn open AI just
looks to wash the Ricky with the backup
at the Crystal made and they have that
control as back really back home form
it’s a 95 percent here for open a I so
humid perspective but this isn’t even
game boy how do they say 95 percent I’m
pretty sure even though I blessed at the
moment wouldn’t be in the night is as
this game does not look one-sided it’s
very even in the net worth open AI
though feeling incredibly confident with
themselves and their I got to dive in
past the tower and look with the
ultimate hit from the gyro BKB is there
from Anna’s you’ll try and tubba step
he’s already fallen spam will make sure
that no tears pushed all the way back a
fissure will come out to hold them down
but open ai they’ve got two more kills
seven jarek’s fall a third as well if
they sniped down no tell right apply
gravel depo it has the eurosceptic
controlling Anna and as sort of left on
his own in to try and hold back but this
the stun france man
is gonna fall as well we can take an
objective here and that’s what gives us
the 95% I guess he had nice cars Krauts
here on to the two of them the CM and
the span but they’re straight again
again the CM holds a ground pops the
ultimate will pull but they’ll get seven
returned just be out of range them will
be able to send over the CM her now
complete it forced up top some will
manage to get that courier once again
managing to catch down the way back but
open AI are prepared
sentries dusts are out and they’ve got
the detection Topsham will be able to
touch a bit of the damage there with the
ultimate it’ll come back down the dust
of course still upon me has got a
silence as you’ll be able to cook his
way away from the CM where’s the
wraparound he’s back into infestation
Thompson’s gonna TP out into the
treeline out he goes he’ll get himself
away from that attempt by open AI in
fact in the river they’re gonna find the
follow-up on to another as Anna leaves
in trouble kiss peep down here by the
sniper turns toward Eric’s I mean it’s
poor dead again on OG only no-tell alive
he’ll pop down a very symbolistic death
Ward as he is going to die as there’s
the deaf prophet with the siphon chasing
him down assassinates gonna come in from
the sniper one more right-click will do
it from the deaf prophet OG getting team
wiped by open AR although this FEM is
they continue to just take these
objectives away from oh gee and OG is
struggling to slow it down we’re gonna
see here cap what what open I was
thinking from their perspective yeah you
could see they wanted to be able to go
into that top lane area and they’re all
feel pretty safe that’s what those green
bars are and then they just kind of like
end up running over OG Thompson giving a
lot of very very important vision
there’s the set of jumping from Jericho
sounds out with the force see him she’s
gonna be forced to safety they do lose
the gyro to see I’m still alive for now
a TP out will get another back to safety
already open now I have found some more
setup airs they’ll go straight away to
ward sab opening up with the yosef to
set will turn with a Viper straight down
onto the span Girardi heading towards
the back lines of OG making it hard for
you to get a teamfight fully together as
once again open our I putting a bit of a
stop to OG trying to make a play now
they’re going on the DEF Bravo what else
ability or can they get the kill that
have already lost on og they will get
their profit but immediate again these
buybacks being used as open our knows
that it has the edge with the numbers
Jerris wolf rode an efficient
block off any attempt to catch from the
gyro but span finishes off sab another
convincing fight here for the AI silence
comes out from the Ricky now as the five
per stroke as well but the BKB is gonna
be pop straight away
jump forward there look towards tops and
tops and force to the side tops and in
potential trouble the red cream comes
out from Anna but Thompson is dead both
him and Eric’s buying back getting into
this game they’re looking to try and
chase Jarrett’s does have a blink
available he’ll jump forward fishes
they’re onto to its public the spent he
flicked into it but I said it’s gonna
killed the snipers he can I should get
anyone else out of this fan he’s keeping
out the deaf profit he’s over it out
they do have the prompter with the
aftershock
and on each other on him to catch out
the Deaf prophet as og they will manage
to kill off two big targets making sure
he can get sort of there I guess the
consistent alt sounds did the potential
BB KB’s and such it’s gonna be a lot
that the AI has to consider when it
tries to plans this SF jump forward here
from og they’re trying to fight into
this the BKB comes out from both for
them both the SF and the span in
response Fischer will be used to try and
separate some of the AI from one another
jump forth on with the rocket barrage
they’ve got the damage to take down tops
and they’ll look towards Jarrett’s
Jarrett’s is gonna fall as well co G as
well they do recognize that now I’m
gonna try and make a play watch this
snap it doesn’t have that BKB available
to pop as they look towards the CM the
vision down they’ll find one missiles
gonna be heading the way off the SF
straight BKB in a TPI from Manny’s got
to get away but they have the
right-click damage to punch through him
and here we have a now so open AI
claiming the mega creeps og they may
have one final defense in them that will
have the full team back up in 15 Derek’s
already leading in under the cover the
smoke trying to start I’m gonna meet
your BKB is out from the Deborah often
making sure the Jarrett’s cannot follow
Thompson into the action like we we
talked about the position six we make a
joke about that about somebody who’s
just only buying Ward’s as it’s
important has no real items that never
happens with the air on mid lane just a
commitment here from the spam BKB
jumping with the god strength it may
just sort of be the shaker but he knows
that the shaker gone from the teamfight
for Jamie’s that is so hard for Jeter to
attempt to hold one tier 4 Tower already
gone as well
so for now I their found SAP also
outside of the base septet for two
minutes
note sale also going to fall stun their
from the span as snipe from the sniper
as Anna will try and do something at
least jumping in with a BKB the first
hole comes out it will be it no tell
killing off the offenders that is gonna
be this friend dead for two minutes
still although they had to be careful of
this sniper as it’s doing so much damage
towards the SF Anna will fall no tell
teepees any stop the dead Ford but the
physical damage from the sniper pulls
apart the witchdoctor they are trying to
keep them drawn away from the ancient as
both Thompson and Gerak’s are trying to
take open a eyes focus away from
anything and jump forwards heads but it
doesn’t matter the creeps are on the
agent TG is called an open a I take Game
one and cap may look pretty terrifying
it was close at the start but one thing
we’ve learned here for OG they’re all
chap may have worked at ti but maybe
hands off the keyboard a little bit
don’t type any or chair against these AI
as they will turn around with vengeance
so certainly it seems like you know when
you think about playing against an AI
you assume that there are certain things
so gonna be super scary one of them is
gonna be like reaction time like oh look
how quickly he was able to blink in and
get that two men stunt sure that looks
good but for me the scariest thing of
all was when we were talking about this
looks like an even game and I says no we
actually have a 95% chance to win this
game
that’s how superior apparently their
analysis of that game was I want to
start by asking how he learned AI to
trash-talk
so a I throughout the game it’s always
predicting what it thinks the
probability of winning is and it does
that while it’s training against itself
you know these millions of games and so
we just whenever it crosses her
threshold we put a tap message in there
but it’s important to remember that
those are trained in games against
itself so if it were the case you know
what I was worried about was that og was
just so much better than open a5 that
even if in self play it had an 80%
chance a position maybe og would be able
to take it to win from there I
definitely made it more nerve-wracking
because once you call that you’re gonna
win be better
nice very good also with these like like
kind of drawn out big team engagements
where it’s not necessarily five on five
right the beginning but all five heroes
eventually show up and they move around
the map and there’s a lot of little
fights going on it just really good at
noticing when it has like a little local
advantage and I’ll turn around the
killer hero and then keep like
positioning itself and the fight might
drag out for for two minutes and they
actually kind of building its advantage
throughout that they were great so we
saw OG a couple of times trying to made
out a fight and just hoping that maybe a
I would jump on them and they could
react to that is that ever gonna work is
that a strategy that you guys things
will work against pie in my mind one of
the things that’s best at is assessing
whether a fight is good or bad to take
so you know my advice would it be if
you’re playing it and it decides to
fight you probably time to retreat
and if it’s sighs retreat that you could
have tried to push the attack it because
it just knows really well when to fight
and why not fight so I think the thing
that they have to abuse is having it’s a
vision banishing common in DotA the the
one fight that went really well for them
was where the the Ricky Thompson was
scouting they saw her opening I was open
I did not see where she was and that
allowed them to get a good echo slam the
fight didn’t go looks super well for
them but considering that it was them
initiating for once in a good place that
that might be the advantage abuse
division in general we see a lot of
these games the way they go down like
the in the second game humans have had a
chance to study what the bots doing they
have a chance to think about their
strategy a little bit to plan it out and
they usually come back a lot stronger
and with a strategy that is designed
kind of counter with a what they’ve seen
from the bots so I’m kind of expecting
this next game to be even closer in the
first ones yeah and it’s worth noting
that the humans are great at learning
right after the first game they’re gonna
take some lessons and apply them the
second game but opening a five the the
models frozen and being essentially
unfrozen separately for each game so it
has no recollection that game that just
happened so they they don’t learn in
between they’re not
now they’ll be very exciting we also
first know well that open air has played
against the other teams before og and we
can see what their results were in the
first game against Elysium SG an
alliance and I believe those should all
be take Marx’s so one game one against
all four teams they won Game one against
all four teams okay for me that’s not
that surprising I feel like if it’s the
first time you play against it it’s
gonna be really jarring is the main
thing is yeah it’s not like your typical
dota where people have these like farm
patterns and they prioritize certain
stuff there’s no jungle time these like
weird buybacks and just running a you
non-stop it’s really really jarring to
play against at first yeah that’s what
we see that the first game is often a
blowout for the AI because the human
isn’t expecting it it’s pretty cool cuz
you might have thought that the AI is
equally surprised by the human doing
this weird thing of not buying back and
doing it slain laning and so on but it
seems like it adapts if it gets a little
bit less surprised what kind of a
different style of dota do you feel like
this was compared to the dota we’ve seen
in official tournaments this was this
action-packed less focused on the lane
like how much do you know GE to change
their way of thinking about the game
well what I told him beforehand and they
were surprised to hear is I gave them
some tips sorry I had to do it I had to
protect my guys I can’t go over through
here what I told them was you’re gonna
be surprised but you’re gonna win the
lanes like it’s not it’s not centered
around winning will aid it’s not gonna
be completely perfect their last hitting
what its gonna do is it’s gonna say
whatever to the lanes
they walk back on stage and you have to
focus more on how you move around the
map it’s like the laning phase they were
really into the laning phase I think is
their first idea which was our plan to
like we were really worried when we
played against it we’re like if I go mid
well I just get dumpsters like well you
just get every single asset no it’s that
at some point you have to take a
five-on-five fight how you take the
fight is much more important than
anything else because you’re laning
phase advantage is just not really going
to matter against them is there like one
AI that is better than the rest or it’s
a little different so there’s one AI
that it’s controlling all five of the
heroes and it’s they’ve kind of been
training that way from the beginning
when it was just like randomly trying
out actions so you could think of it as
all five heroes have just know what to
expect from each other at all times and
stay kind of I’ve seen the same
situations they know how each other
likes to respond and they’re going to
have perfectly coordinated so it’s one
mastermind that controls five the way I
would say is it five different clones of
exactly the same brain and they’ve
trained like they said they’ve trained
each other for so long
they just know exact bite they’re gonna
do this cuz like ever since their birth
everything they’ve seen is together so
you know you’ll have to stay like you go
left I’ll go right
we just both know that’s what we do in
the situation but they played so many
games that they have an expectation that
the crystal maiden is gonna use Nova
because of X reason therefore they know
that they’re gonna follow back that’s
why they were always so coordinated
killing Ricky every time we showed like
Oh always this person first is instant
then this guy follows up yeah