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ladies and gentlemen the International

2018 champions oh gee

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I’ll just tell you their strategy

because it doesn’t matter it’s not like

opening I like it doesn’t matter it

doesn’t impact anybody so they were just

saying like so originally mood was like

if we just caught waves what can they do

and it was really funny because the

backstage no tail said the exact same

thing he’s like if we call waves what

can they do and I was like you might

think that but this is a four core

lineup for opening I mean do that they

don’t think in that you know in that way

so it’s not like we need a support no

they need with something that we do

often see them if you look at net worth

distribution at the end of the game they

much less frequently have the serve

three core to support structure they’re

all sort of each other okay very very

selfless team yeah so the draft is done

we see the percentage there I mean they

only got like an extra what three

percent off the back of five euros

picked game number one of this best of

three is gonna is gonna start and it’s

gonna start real soon and it’s gonna

start with the voices of OD pixel and

capitalist open AI PI business oh gee

game one we see here this is gonna be

the open AI this is gonna we’re gonna

see how open AI is thinking about where

they’re gonna be going so this is gonna

be showing like green lines to show whet

what Lane they’re gonna be heading to

and where they want to go in the future

basically and then we’re also gonna have

little little health bars underneath

each one of the heroes that’s going to

demonstrate what the AI thinks about

their current situation and how likely

they are to be able to get kills how

likely they are to die so if you see a

super red bar pretty much means they’re

done for rone already up so the action

is kicking off is okay i will clean

first blood no town is to be caught out

here as the two teams meet head to head

and that top rune spawn we’ve got this

off later that kids survived pretty oh

geez look at that it’s already gone up

quite a bit since the drafting phase the

trash talk has already begun absolutely

og of course are the ultimate seamen use

the old chat functions to tilt the

teammates I’ll see if it works out here

against the AI and CM is really wants to

go back to those creeps but Jax will

make sure that she will not be unable to

do so for now leaving step on his own

down bottom ladyship can kill the

crystal maiden actually yeah they set it

up Thompson rotates over it

didn’t see that coming that’s exactly

the point they’ve got a Riki mid how

could she see that coming when he’s

invisible another team people come into

that bottom lane from the sniper AI

bringing him back up at the same time a

is going aggressive up top open AI

diving past the tower they’ll find notes

out but they don’t pretty deep for this

the open AI if the reaction will be

there from og they have both the combo

of the SF and the shaker to bring down

the gyrocopter will try and exploit will

see whether or not it works for them

because this is how deep sev is skipping

these creeps he should pay with his life

this time anyway as the CM is able to

put a stop it’s all though - she might

actually just deny the whole entire wave

now very close between the two you see

Jax he’s gonna look for a ramp round on

mate the setups there with the fissure

open hours blocked in nowhere the Deaf

prophet to run as that will be another

kill here but opsin on his Riki top lane

back towards more action open a I once

again looked at diving deep past the

tower with this gyrocopters Fang

combination they’ve got the beauty

restoration though OG notes now keeping

the two of them alive as oh jeez able to

turn bring down the Sven still although

trying for this SF jarred desperate for

the kill but he cat off and the heels

from no tail picking up the witchdoctor

we’ve seen how the harassment opening

eyes super good about being able to do

that into voodoo restoration is cutting

a lot of that out making these fights go

their way I can see the AI go in this

time with the help of the CM then look

at it leading on to the SF notice there

though again as you mentioned this

beauty restoration just making it that

little to half the AI to instantly kill

the SF they’ll get another stun out he’s

still alive though finally they get that

kill on to Ana they will finish up the

shadow fiend

they’re trying to see if they can find

him from or potentially open now as it

looks towards note sail with the rocket

barrage the jaracaca finds another this

time the open eye is getting away with

the aggression up top they realized it

wasn’t working with just the spend in

the Jaro

so they add in that crystal maiden and

it makes all the difference I remember

from experience we thought the the cast

was going to be good the paralyzing cast

was gonna be good against the I it is

not they know the spacing so well well I

have a great setup here in the middle

lane a little bit surprised they didn’t

try and dive that shadowfiend but I

guess the gyro did not have the mana

Christine Thompson with a quick jump

away will make sure that he doesn’t go

down in responses I can’t help but

thinking if you just frostbite as the

Gerry is getting gone upon and of a slow

comes out from the CM holding back

Gerak’s and Thompson but there’s a

Fisher another jump forward as og should

be able to find it closed nearly dies to

their rocket barrage but Thompson’s

prepared as soon as the gyro is dead

he’s got a South popped and it’s ready

to try and hunt for more again look at

the objectives right I was gonna say

this is gonna be super interesting to

see how they respond right there’s a big

dive going on the bottom lane but

there’s no creep wave the towers not

under attack so they see hey that’s not

worth it we’re not rotating to save a

hero we’re gonna make sure we take an

objective in that top lane instead see

back to was mid Thompson able to chase

down the sea on a big old comes out

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crystal maiden do it a big down there

and in fact they’re gonna get this SF as

well ana falls the crystal maiden going

big standing her ground committing with

the ultimate to get the tower spin is

incredibly low so it’s going to TP in a

try and find this kill for sure over out

the Viper stroke instance done from the

span will hold set back in position

is he gonna tick down to the point he’s

not this event they’ll survive and now

open augh and they turn onto SAP they’ll

get the Viper killed Hopson and Gerak’s

they’re still trying to desperately

chase it at least something here jump

for from Thompson tricks the trade it

won’t quite do it the chair is too

speedy he continues to retreat Thompson

is gonna try and chase this down he’s

got another jump forward and he will

finally be able to claim the life of the

gyrocopter

he’s really going for this kill again

another jump fourth the silence down

he’s trying to find it has he got the

damage or I mean he’ll get it but he

loses his life for it there as now I

would move here from og they found the

gyrocopter also found the CM blink

forward there from the two of them

they’ll chase down a second a double

kill picked up by Ana with og forcing

open our eyes reaction up top they know

that the Jarrah is pretty alone here

is trying to chase they’ve got the catch

with the Fisher and with that double

damage rune top someone had the damn is

it to be a media buyback in fact from

the gyrocopter oh jeez man it’s it’s a

buyback for what as open a ice Jarrah

can already get back a position to

punish og oh jeez already out there

Thompson actually he’s still trying to

make a go he’s gonna jump it he’s alive

for that one a very unnecessary play

there from Thompson at least from our

understanding of toda it is really

important to have those tomorrow so it’s

going for a pretty well I say ambitious

but he has got the help of Jarrett’s and

with that stunlock

that’ll be more than enough so I mean

that this friend isin enough up i back

now down and it seems like oh geez

founds a kind of pattern to take it to

the AI but they are gonna lose to here

again very aggressive plays a promote he

actually fool boy he nearly gets away

but will not be the case smart the gyro

ran back to give vision to the snipers

so he could actually get the the auto

attack you see in the middle jerax and

coach Sam’s gonna be used quick set up

in another instance buyback this team

open a I will not stay down they get

immediately back into the game as this

fan is in trouble they’re bringing back

up there’s gonna be so he’s having a

grab it but for the Spanish in fact

though matter they turn open AI just

looks to wash the Ricky with the backup

at the Crystal made and they have that

control as back really back home form

it’s a 95 percent here for open a I so

humid perspective but this isn’t even

game boy how do they say 95 percent I’m

pretty sure even though I blessed at the

moment wouldn’t be in the night is as

this game does not look one-sided it’s

very even in the net worth open AI

though feeling incredibly confident with

themselves and their I got to dive in

past the tower and look with the

ultimate hit from the gyro BKB is there

from Anna’s you’ll try and tubba step

he’s already fallen spam will make sure

that no tears pushed all the way back a

fissure will come out to hold them down

but open ai they’ve got two more kills

seven jarek’s fall a third as well if

they sniped down no tell right apply

gravel depo it has the eurosceptic

controlling Anna and as sort of left on

his own in to try and hold back but this

the stun france man

is gonna fall as well we can take an

objective here and that’s what gives us

the 95% I guess he had nice cars Krauts

here on to the two of them the CM and

the span but they’re straight again

again the CM holds a ground pops the

ultimate will pull but they’ll get seven

returned just be out of range them will

be able to send over the CM her now

complete it forced up top some will

manage to get that courier once again

managing to catch down the way back but

open AI are prepared

sentries dusts are out and they’ve got

the detection Topsham will be able to

touch a bit of the damage there with the

ultimate it’ll come back down the dust

of course still upon me has got a

silence as you’ll be able to cook his

way away from the CM where’s the

wraparound he’s back into infestation

Thompson’s gonna TP out into the

treeline out he goes he’ll get himself

away from that attempt by open AI in

fact in the river they’re gonna find the

follow-up on to another as Anna leaves

in trouble kiss peep down here by the

sniper turns toward Eric’s I mean it’s

poor dead again on OG only no-tell alive

he’ll pop down a very symbolistic death

Ward as he is going to die as there’s

the deaf prophet with the siphon chasing

him down assassinates gonna come in from

the sniper one more right-click will do

it from the deaf prophet OG getting team

wiped by open AR although this FEM is

they continue to just take these

objectives away from oh gee and OG is

struggling to slow it down we’re gonna

see here cap what what open I was

thinking from their perspective yeah you

could see they wanted to be able to go

into that top lane area and they’re all

feel pretty safe that’s what those green

bars are and then they just kind of like

end up running over OG Thompson giving a

lot of very very important vision

there’s the set of jumping from Jericho

sounds out with the force see him she’s

gonna be forced to safety they do lose

the gyro to see I’m still alive for now

a TP out will get another back to safety

already open now I have found some more

setup airs they’ll go straight away to

ward sab opening up with the yosef to

set will turn with a Viper straight down

onto the span Girardi heading towards

the back lines of OG making it hard for

you to get a teamfight fully together as

once again open our I putting a bit of a

stop to OG trying to make a play now

they’re going on the DEF Bravo what else

ability or can they get the kill that

have already lost on og they will get

their profit but immediate again these

buybacks being used as open our knows

that it has the edge with the numbers

Jerris wolf rode an efficient

block off any attempt to catch from the

gyro but span finishes off sab another

convincing fight here for the AI silence

comes out from the Ricky now as the five

per stroke as well but the BKB is gonna

be pop straight away

jump forward there look towards tops and

tops and force to the side tops and in

potential trouble the red cream comes

out from Anna but Thompson is dead both

him and Eric’s buying back getting into

this game they’re looking to try and

chase Jarrett’s does have a blink

available he’ll jump forward fishes

they’re onto to its public the spent he

flicked into it but I said it’s gonna

killed the snipers he can I should get

anyone else out of this fan he’s keeping

out the deaf profit he’s over it out

they do have the prompter with the

aftershock

and on each other on him to catch out

the Deaf prophet as og they will manage

to kill off two big targets making sure

he can get sort of there I guess the

consistent alt sounds did the potential

BB KB’s and such it’s gonna be a lot

that the AI has to consider when it

tries to plans this SF jump forward here

from og they’re trying to fight into

this the BKB comes out from both for

them both the SF and the span in

response Fischer will be used to try and

separate some of the AI from one another

jump forth on with the rocket barrage

they’ve got the damage to take down tops

and they’ll look towards Jarrett’s

Jarrett’s is gonna fall as well co G as

well they do recognize that now I’m

gonna try and make a play watch this

snap it doesn’t have that BKB available

to pop as they look towards the CM the

vision down they’ll find one missiles

gonna be heading the way off the SF

straight BKB in a TPI from Manny’s got

to get away but they have the

right-click damage to punch through him

and here we have a now so open AI

claiming the mega creeps og they may

have one final defense in them that will

have the full team back up in 15 Derek’s

already leading in under the cover the

smoke trying to start I’m gonna meet

your BKB is out from the Deborah often

making sure the Jarrett’s cannot follow

Thompson into the action like we we

talked about the position six we make a

joke about that about somebody who’s

just only buying Ward’s as it’s

important has no real items that never

happens with the air on mid lane just a

commitment here from the spam BKB

jumping with the god strength it may

just sort of be the shaker but he knows

that the shaker gone from the teamfight

for Jamie’s that is so hard for Jeter to

attempt to hold one tier 4 Tower already

gone as well

so for now I their found SAP also

outside of the base septet for two

minutes

note sale also going to fall stun their

from the span as snipe from the sniper

as Anna will try and do something at

least jumping in with a BKB the first

hole comes out it will be it no tell

killing off the offenders that is gonna

be this friend dead for two minutes

still although they had to be careful of

this sniper as it’s doing so much damage

towards the SF Anna will fall no tell

teepees any stop the dead Ford but the

physical damage from the sniper pulls

apart the witchdoctor they are trying to

keep them drawn away from the ancient as

both Thompson and Gerak’s are trying to

take open a eyes focus away from

anything and jump forwards heads but it

doesn’t matter the creeps are on the

agent TG is called an open a I take Game

one and cap may look pretty terrifying

it was close at the start but one thing

we’ve learned here for OG they’re all

chap may have worked at ti but maybe

hands off the keyboard a little bit

don’t type any or chair against these AI

as they will turn around with vengeance

so certainly it seems like you know when

you think about playing against an AI

you assume that there are certain things

so gonna be super scary one of them is

gonna be like reaction time like oh look

how quickly he was able to blink in and

get that two men stunt sure that looks

good but for me the scariest thing of

all was when we were talking about this

looks like an even game and I says no we

actually have a 95% chance to win this

game

that’s how superior apparently their

analysis of that game was I want to

start by asking how he learned AI to

trash-talk

so a I throughout the game it’s always

predicting what it thinks the

probability of winning is and it does

that while it’s training against itself

you know these millions of games and so

we just whenever it crosses her

threshold we put a tap message in there

but it’s important to remember that

those are trained in games against

itself so if it were the case you know

what I was worried about was that og was

just so much better than open a5 that

even if in self play it had an 80%

chance a position maybe og would be able

to take it to win from there I

definitely made it more nerve-wracking

because once you call that you’re gonna

win be better

nice very good also with these like like

kind of drawn out big team engagements

where it’s not necessarily five on five

right the beginning but all five heroes

eventually show up and they move around

the map and there’s a lot of little

fights going on it just really good at

noticing when it has like a little local

advantage and I’ll turn around the

killer hero and then keep like

positioning itself and the fight might

drag out for for two minutes and they

actually kind of building its advantage

throughout that they were great so we

saw OG a couple of times trying to made

out a fight and just hoping that maybe a

I would jump on them and they could

react to that is that ever gonna work is

that a strategy that you guys things

will work against pie in my mind one of

the things that’s best at is assessing

whether a fight is good or bad to take

so you know my advice would it be if

you’re playing it and it decides to

fight you probably time to retreat

and if it’s sighs retreat that you could

have tried to push the attack it because

it just knows really well when to fight

and why not fight so I think the thing

that they have to abuse is having it’s a

vision banishing common in DotA the the

one fight that went really well for them

was where the the Ricky Thompson was

scouting they saw her opening I was open

I did not see where she was and that

allowed them to get a good echo slam the

fight didn’t go looks super well for

them but considering that it was them

initiating for once in a good place that

that might be the advantage abuse

division in general we see a lot of

these games the way they go down like

the in the second game humans have had a

chance to study what the bots doing they

have a chance to think about their

strategy a little bit to plan it out and

they usually come back a lot stronger

and with a strategy that is designed

kind of counter with a what they’ve seen

from the bots so I’m kind of expecting

this next game to be even closer in the

first ones yeah and it’s worth noting

that the humans are great at learning

right after the first game they’re gonna

take some lessons and apply them the

second game but opening a five the the

models frozen and being essentially

unfrozen separately for each game so it

has no recollection that game that just

happened so they they don’t learn in

between they’re not

now they’ll be very exciting we also

first know well that open air has played

against the other teams before og and we

can see what their results were in the

first game against Elysium SG an

alliance and I believe those should all

be take Marx’s so one game one against

all four teams they won Game one against

all four teams okay for me that’s not

that surprising I feel like if it’s the

first time you play against it it’s

gonna be really jarring is the main

thing is yeah it’s not like your typical

dota where people have these like farm

patterns and they prioritize certain

stuff there’s no jungle time these like

weird buybacks and just running a you

non-stop it’s really really jarring to

play against at first yeah that’s what

we see that the first game is often a

blowout for the AI because the human

isn’t expecting it it’s pretty cool cuz

you might have thought that the AI is

equally surprised by the human doing

this weird thing of not buying back and

doing it slain laning and so on but it

seems like it adapts if it gets a little

bit less surprised what kind of a

different style of dota do you feel like

this was compared to the dota we’ve seen

in official tournaments this was this

action-packed less focused on the lane

like how much do you know GE to change

their way of thinking about the game

well what I told him beforehand and they

were surprised to hear is I gave them

some tips sorry I had to do it I had to

protect my guys I can’t go over through

here what I told them was you’re gonna

be surprised but you’re gonna win the

lanes like it’s not it’s not centered

around winning will aid it’s not gonna

be completely perfect their last hitting

what its gonna do is it’s gonna say

whatever to the lanes

they walk back on stage and you have to

focus more on how you move around the

map it’s like the laning phase they were

really into the laning phase I think is

their first idea which was our plan to

like we were really worried when we

played against it we’re like if I go mid

well I just get dumpsters like well you

just get every single asset no it’s that

at some point you have to take a

five-on-five fight how you take the

fight is much more important than

anything else because you’re laning

phase advantage is just not really going

to matter against them is there like one

AI that is better than the rest or it’s

a little different so there’s one AI

that it’s controlling all five of the

heroes and it’s they’ve kind of been

training that way from the beginning

when it was just like randomly trying

out actions so you could think of it as

all five heroes have just know what to

expect from each other at all times and

stay kind of I’ve seen the same

situations they know how each other

likes to respond and they’re going to

have perfectly coordinated so it’s one

mastermind that controls five the way I

would say is it five different clones of

exactly the same brain and they’ve

trained like they said they’ve trained

each other for so long

they just know exact bite they’re gonna

do this cuz like ever since their birth

everything they’ve seen is together so

you know you’ll have to stay like you go

left I’ll go right

we just both know that’s what we do in

the situation but they played so many

games that they have an expectation that

the crystal maiden is gonna use Nova

because of X reason therefore they know

that they’re gonna follow back that’s

why they were always so coordinated

killing Ricky every time we showed like

Oh always this person first is instant

then this guy follows up yeah