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so hi Rodrigo thank you so much for

taking this Skype interview and I just

wanted to find out I saw you before and

after I was literally blown away so I

had to get you on just as a dialog can

you tell me can you tell me a little bit

about were you always like did you ever

struggle with your weight yes it’s been

an issue all my life ever since I was a

little kid and have the Weight Watchers

those one of the original Weight

Watchers clients has a big plastic

yellow cup that I have to drink four

times a day all throughout my teenage

years you know it’s been an issue all my

life oh my god and and managing you ate

a few pine I think it’s my fourth or

fifth times out the moving way never did

it correctly but I managed used to wait

before Wow a lot harder a lot harder to

lose the weight but I managed to do it

tell me some of the turning points that

starting you really getting success well

of course you know I got very interested

in your videos I did lots of research

basically all over the internet not just

YouTube and the watch most of your

videos if not all of them and the 30

foot for me to be real precise was

understanding what makes you gain weight

I mean that is oh yeah that for me was

was the biggest turning point I remember

dr. Berger humours back was the Atkins

diet was was a rage you know I guess

maybe ten years ago basically what it

started out and I did this back inside I

lost weight but I did it all back I gave

it all back and I could not for the life

of me understand how I could eat so much

broken fat ends weight I couldn’t

understand that there was no scientific

explanation that makes it and I’m not a

doctor you know I work with software I

have some technical knowledge you know I

understand technical things but he just

didn’t ever make sense to me why why I

could not keep the weight off you

and then I remember actually a few years

ago going all over the internet trying

to understand why you lost weight the

Atkins diet and there’s a little road

internet that’s that information are

available and five years ago you cannot

find on the Internet how that can side

makings weight the best answer I read

was well you end up dating a little bit

less because you’re eating so much

protein which literally it’s not true so

that’s the 34 the turning point for me

is actually having the correct

information to be able to plan and start

acting on it you know that that that for

me was the big big turning point I think

I just wanted to say interject something

because I think the average person

that’s struggling with weight it’s

really blows on so they don’t know how

to burn fat now if you take a look at

ketosis which is basically your body is

running off of the byproduct of fat so

you’re running off of ketones which are

basically fat burning so I mean it would

seem logical to me that if someone who

will understand ketosis they would want

to do it since that’s the goal the goal

of losing weight is to burn fat but I

think number one people don’t understand

what it is it’s a new term they don’t

know how to do it healthily and so they

end up doing a diet and then struggling

highly contradicts anything we’ve been

taught yeah right it goes right up it

again

oh yeah eat more fat of what are you

crazy my friends that are doctors that

spreads that are surgeons and they like

what are you crazy

I feel Jesus but you know what are you

crazy that I started doing this and a

few weeks go by like what do you get

yeah Wow

so now um like right now I’m guessing

you’re also doing in a minute fasting

yes actually that that’s when really

things took off I’ve been using a most

both methods they go really well hand in

hand yeah and III play actually I’ve

learned amount to

my hunger you know it’s 100 for me you

know and sometimes when I work out I get

a little bit more hungry I eat and then

I take it like that you know and I feel

it’s good and I weigh myself once a week

and I put on one or two pounds then I’ll

do some intermittent fasting for two

three days it’ll come down and that’s

how I’ve been they’ll be able to manage

the whole way situation it makes me feel

good so the whole energy things it’s

totally true I mean is it it’s it I’m

witnessing who’s it actually important

it words it makes you feel really good

this is the goal is to get you just

knowing how to do it so you can pretty

much if you go off you know what to do

to get back on you you can control your

way you’re in charge you’re not at the

effect of this metabolism so tell me

right now on average how many hours you

go with fasting and how many times you

eat in a given day well I do with the

fact that really feels good to me is

basically about a 20 hour path okay you

know and I usually just goes on Monday

because of the weekend you know I

confess I do relax a little bit you know

is sometimes go I take like carbs

basically and I know I’m not supposed to

do this for a little vino a little wine

right what carbs for the one the only

the only excuse I I can accept it for

the wine maybe one day bottle and is

about 50 cards and you can do one bottle

a night now I’m just kidding so so now

let’s say you’re going 20 hours so I’m

guessing you’re doing two meals a day or

just one I do too

in a four-hour window so I usually I’ll

go home just like today today I first

meal I wake up around 6:00 6:30 and I’ll

have a little coffee with heavy cream

and maybe if I’m really hungry I’ll

throw a little bit of butter a little a

little bit of the grass-fed butter on

there and and I’ll go the whole day and

I’ll start getting hungry around for

five o’clock five o’clock I’ll have a

snack I am usually a little bit of

cheese or some walnuts and stuff and

then I have a good deal around 7:30 in a

muck of a big meal and that’s it it’s

over

throw in some kale shakes there once in

a while okay good so can you give me an

example when you eat a big meal what is

what’s in that meal oh I got this well

dinner for example tonight I love the

cook here at home my wife doesn’t cook I

took over the kitchen so and then I use

that you know to make what I like to eat

is she ended up jumping on the bed when

we weak you so today I made a big

meatloaf with stuffed with spinach and

cheddar cheese so that that was our

dinner that was our dinner and a little

pop silent with with a little mustard

vinaigrette but also lets the cook so

that really helps things out so I’ve

been trying to get me that I made a pita

bread of a jido pizza you know in my

wife actually in 50 kilos on the white

on the diocese I put her on the

bandwagon for both of us or both keto

that that’s fantastic and then right now

you’re working out too right

yes actually what I did is I I what I

noticed which is also I’ve heard on the

videos what do you more a cab actually I

work on a lot my team actually work on

stuff then well and then I get away

there was all over like look wait so I

focus on the weight loss before working

out because I noticed that working out

really made me hungry I I go I want to

walk and come back and I just couldn’t

hold my appetite I had to eat you know I

sat down and you know I made I did the

numbers when I other exercise and eat on

an exercise and Nadi about exercise or

not even waiting yeah

how that makes sense I just released a

video on that it’s like you you may be

right before you can eat during them

eating meal or maybe right after because

you’re right it’s gonna you’re going to

tap on your glycogen Reserve and you’re

going to be

really hungry so if you want to go

through that it’s not that big of a

crucial thing to to exercise when you’re

not eating so yeah your before and

afters I was like amazed amazed to you

obviously whatever you’re doing is

working now if someone were to you know

hear about what you’re eating we’re in a

minute fasting I think what comes up

number one is like oh my gosh I’m going

to be so hungry I’m going to lose muscle

mass what would you say to that yeah I

would I would actually I would say try

it try it and what really worked for me

is I started doing actually I was never

really hungry in the forty I only ate

because I was already overweight right

and I like to eat I’m you like to eat

everything ready that the FDA has no

problem telling us to eat six times a

day they can tell us the problem that

they only normal type of day right okay

it’s plentiful but oh you know I was

never hungry in the morning so I’m like

okay I’m not that hungry I’m gonna have

a coffee on Monday and I went to lunch

and then at lunch I started doing in a

low car icepad and once they just pull

the other you get it kind of the

intermittent fasting works together with

the key with the ketogenic diet I mean

they have to go hand-in-hand there yeah

I think because it improves really it

makes it made a lot of sense to me and I

felt it because I was actually fixing my

metabolism which were I would eat and I

consider out the life of you how I would

go to McDonald’s they need the biggest

new they had in an hour later be hungry

I could not how can i still be early you

know and now and and I eat more now

workout reason and I’m not hungry

so basically my system was was all

colluded with the carbs and

and you know that’s what happened to me

and I was able to fix it doing this that

they can identify and really help me out

a lot for those because they’re watching

and you’re concerned about it not being

healthy what you’re doing is you’re

fixing high levels of insulin when you

lower your insulin your body can finally

tap into fat all of six happening

hormones are nullified in the presence

of insulin so what fixes insulin is not

eating so frequent cutting out the carbs

but to do that you have to increase fat

to be able to go from one mill to the

next year your if you did this on lean

protein you would crash and burn because

it would be too hard yeah you do lose

weight but it’s something that’s a lot

harder and if you fail eventually you

won’t be able to hold a long time which

is the whole idea so what you’re doing

now is you feel that it’s sustainable

for sure definitely because I enjoy what

I mean I don’t I don’t know hungry I

enjoy what I’m eating and most

importantly that the energy I have now I

don’t want to lose that energy yeah I

know it’s encouraged I don’t want to

lose energy ever I’ve never I’ve never

had so much energy so I really want to

keep up that activity level and since

I’m enjoying myself I’m not really

depriving myself of any pleasures and

when I eventually want to have something

really sweet I’ll have some diet that’s

made of diet jello or something like

that or maybe have some whipped cream

without no sugar and that all

strawberries maybe some very rested that

that’s it basically I understood one

thing that if I want to stay the lean

and keep the energy level I can’t eat

the cards if I eat the carbs I will gain

the way back that’s understand that for

some reason you know the overweight mind

thinks like this I’m going to do the

diet so I can lose the weight but

eventually i cain’t

like I did before no right it doesn’t

make sense I cook back yeah but that’s

how we think right now that’s all

obese a big

but there’s so many other things you can

eat to make it enjoyable and I think you

figured it out so I want to thank you so

much for this interview it was really

great to meet you and get this crystal

behind it before and after which is

incredible so I just want to say well

done good job and it came by lucky

thank you okay thank you for all the

great information there is a beautiful

work beautiful job I really appreciate

it

oh my I am telling everybody I can the

work is great you explained everything

really well and you’re lightyears ahead

of what’s out there in the medicine good

let me tell you I appreciate that thank

you very much okay I am ago by YouTube

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