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welcome everyone have a special guest

today uh sarah g is with us

and he has a just an amazing website

it’s called green med info.com i’ve been

going to that website for a long time in

fact that’s where i do a lot of research

on because he just has a com a

compilation of so much research on

natural remedies i mean it’ll just make

your head spin i think there’s probably

i think it’s over 10 000 articles at

least so

welcome welcome and thanks for being on

thank you for having me dr berger i

appreciate your work and you helping

spreading empowering information to the

world uh great job on that

hey thanks

so um

let’s talk about uh several things i

would like to talk about

definitely garlic um in relationship to

because i when i did research on garlic

on your site there’s just like a

you have a massive

catalog of things like every different

angle of what it does

um

let’s first talk about garlic because

it’s just a it’s a interesting topic so

what what what uh what’s the some of the

benefits of garlic on our body thank you

yes i love the topic of garlic because i

love it as a culinary addition to my

life

but when it comes to the research on it

in fact

last time i checked there were 6 000

plus articles on pubmed describe right

describing its many benefits so

over the past decade i’ve done some

indexing of the research and we have

about 500

conditions that have been studied

indicating that it could benefit them

across 100 plus distinct pharmacological

actions you know like cardio vascular

protection antioxidants

hypotensive all these great

ways of expressing the benefits so for

me i’ve always been just marveling at

how

in the past spices and herbs were

worth their weight in gold at times and

now i know why because the research is

so clearly showing that you know they do

provide really solid evidence-based

alternatives to many of the conventional

approaches that um are absolutely

life-saving within a certain context but

i prefer culinary medicine where it’s

preventive small delicious doses daily

and then you hopefully don’t need some

kind of heroic procedure down the

line

right

right there’s a

very recently

i’m not sure if

uh like obviously you know about uh i

guess it’s allison right allison is the

one of the compounds exactly um

now what’s interesting is um there’s a

enzyme called scot

that’s the short short name for it but

um

but what it does is that

if someone develops damage to the

mitochondria and they get cancer

allison acts as an um a blocker for

scott to feed the cancer

and as i was researching that it was

just

trying to break down the chemistry and i

had to really just almost like draw it

out but um

i’m like wow that is the reason that’s

one of the one of the modes that it

actually can address cancer is it blocks

the actual fuel

to the cancer cell itself so but it’s a

it’s a salvage pathway so in other words

um

you can use other compounds to block it

but there’s like a back door if if the

cancer needs food it uses back door and

garlic actually has a compound that

blocks that back door

so

that’s the most recent thing i was

involved with but uh but go ahead tell

me some of the other things yeah well

let’s refirm what you’re saying um

actually right now we have uh

identified 19 different cancers that

garlic has been studied to

at least on an experimental level appear

to prevent and or have a therapeutic

effect against

and

part of it is its selective cytotoxicity

it’s a very common thing within natural

compounds for them to be able to exhibit

what almost looks like a rudimentary

type of intelligence they can

target the cancer stem cell which is

technically maybe one in every 1000 to

10 000 cells in a tumor is actually

capable of causing new

tumor coordination so

that specific cell type is so often

called called the sort of heart of

cancer malignancy is targeted by these

compounds and yet the healthy tissue

remains on intact whereas a lot of

conventional chemotherapy and radiation

is not

selective so there’s a lot of collateral

damage so that’s one of the things that

i find most exciting about garlic for

that use

wow so it’s it doesn’t mess with your

normal cells it goes after the abnormal

cells um does it

does it basically cause the cell to

commit suicide is that how it kills it

or what does it do

that appears to be what is most

consistent in the literature that i’ve

looked at which is that exactly it’s um

inducing programmed cell death versus

let’s say a cell gets harmed through

an exposure to a toxicant or an injury

it’s necrotic and then having to break

down all of that

cell

debris can cause a lot of damage and

confusion within the immune system

whereas programmed cell death is just

this gentle disassembly of the cancer

cell which once was immortal couldn’t

stop proliferating and now it’s like

okay i’m being reminded i’m part of this

whole body and i’m going to leave now

and then healthy tissue will replace me

and that’s the beauty again of these

sorts of natural compounds

that’s fascinating

is there

some importance is there a great

importance of having it

like fresh garlic versus

fermented versus

caps and capsules freeze-dried do you

have any data on that

yeah there’s a lot of research on the

differences and i believe that

interestingly even in some cases cooked

garlic may have even higher antioxidant

activity than non-cooked garlic

so there’s a lot of counter intuitive

dimensions to the topic but i will say

that i think just generally speaking

um and this is something that stephanie

saneff uh senior researcher at mit she

constantly is bringing to light is that

there’s sort of a sulfur deficiency in

the western diet

and some of it has to do with soil

quality but it really has a lot to do

with a lack of things like organosulfur

containing garlic and then cruciferous

vegetables so it may be that in many

cases of cancer it’s another example of

there’s a deficiency of a very basic

vital compound that we you know had in

our diet for really literally thousands

of generations and then now it’s gone

and so the body is

expressing an imbalance not so much a

pre-programmed

code of death within the cells which is

unfortunately the way sometimes cancer

is perceived

interesting

so um

does it have any properties like

cruciferous vegetables in dismantling

carcinogens like environmental pollution

i’m not sure

yes i do believe that if you look at the

research on sulfur containing compounds

they are essential in helping to

activate the toxic detoxification

pathways which are the phase one and two

enzyme systems so the sulfur-containing

compound helps with uh glucoronidation

as i recall which helps to render

fat-soluble or lipophilic toxicants

water-soluble so they can be eliminated

through you know say the kidneys

so there’s definitely something about

how

these uh categories support our natural

detoxification process

interesting

yeah and so um so you have a lot of also

date on the cruciferous vegetables i

mean you have tons and tons of data on

that uh with also

cancer

it infects cancer big time i mean you

have

radishes you have

kale

i mean there’s some huge effects on

killing cancer directly right

yeah it’s interesting because as i

explored the topic you know more in

depth i discovered that it almost

appears as if

in the new model of understanding food

you know it’s not just building blocks

for the body machine you know lipids and

proteins and carbohydrates and

micronutrients nor is it just fuel for

the body but food is a form of

inflammation and literally contains

within it these little packets

of nanoparticles which which include

exosomes actually that contain within

them

micrornas which are non-coding rna

sequences now known to super being and

control the expression of the majority

of the protein coding genes in the human

genome so technically they’re like

master regulators and they’re actually

found outside of us in certain foods so

now the new view of

things like chronic diseases especially

heart disease and cancer is that we may

be seeing deficiencies of essential

information carrying molecules from from

ancestral foods

as being the cause of what otherwise

would be conceived as you know arbitrary

chaotic genetically based uh causes of

disease

so so this is acts as an epigenetic

factor right it’s actually

expressing it actually can activate or

express certain genes or suppress other

genes

exactly yes beyond the control of the

coating genes are those factors in our

lifestyle our diet that are also found

now in foods it’s also known as

nutrigenomics where you have this

information

content within food that then modulates

the expression of our genes

and it’s kind of revolutionary because

now we understand why you know grandma

said eat your greens and it’s essential

for your health and now we can kind of

understand it’s more than just vitamins

there’s actually

a means by which we regulate the

epigenetic and genetic integrity of our

entire

body and that’s actually based on what

foods we do and do not eat

so just for those of you that are

listening that are maybe new to this

topic you have the genes which are

they’re not set in stone i mean they

have certain programs that can turn on

and off but then you have something

above that that controls that called

epigenetics that could be environment it

could be stress it could be your

just your your attitude

your emotional attitude it could also be

foods and we’re talking about

cruciferous and garlic that have

huge obviously epigenetic factors on

turning on certain genes of your own

body so it’s that’s actually a that’s

very very fascinating actually

um

you know when i was in practice um

we would put people

instead of like

when i was first starting out i didn’t

really know too much about cruciferous

and things because

i was i would just put people in a detox

i would give them high potency herbs to

detoxify their body and they would

always get sick for two weeks they’d end

up with a

lung infection or

mucus coming out and so

later on i found out why that was

occurring and i just want to share that

with those people that

you know wanted to do a detox or

something you have to sometimes be

careful because

even powerful herbs can actually um

break open bacteria

and viruses and release endotoxins

that can go into the liver and create um

a

blockage of the bile ducts that’s what

it does and so now you have this

bile duct that’s backed up and the bile

if the bile backs up to these little

ducts

it’s it’s uh it’s like a detergent it’s

very irritating to the liver and that’s

where you get this inflammatory reaction

and you get sick

and so

what i eventually started doing is um

before i start

a person on a detox i would give them

purified bile salts and uh uh the one i

would use a lot would be called top tut

cup

t-u-d-c-c-a tut-cut i think it’s uh

and um

that actually is kind of a

similar chemistry to

an ancient remedy that um that goes way

back which is

bear bile oh yeah

and so

apparently that that has been used all

over in uh asia and uh europe but not

too much in america but if you took that

you would find that it opens up the

ducts just opens up your bile ducts and

it just allows for drainage and so you

don’t you don’t get any detox reactions

any negative

and so

you know people online all the time are

there they’re talking about oh i have

a disorder with uh

pancreatitis

gallbladder problems

and that’s really just because the bile

has become thickened where maybe they’re

trying to detox and everything kind of

backs up but

if you take bile salts on an empty

stomach you can just keep that flow

draining it’s such a simple

remedy but only if you know about it you

know

absolutely yeah there’s so many foods

that i know of that have this choleric

effect when the bile gets really sticky

and that cholestasis right yeah it could

be very basic things like cumin from

turmeric or you know even garlic

actually i think has that effect so

uh it’s amazing but

food and these these ancient remedies

are still the best medicine in some

cases

yeah i think i think you’re right in

probably most cases

um

hey what about um

um

turmeric i know that’s that’s a very uh

hot topic now what

what is so special about that

well that’s one of those herbs that i

was just blown away by because when i

started agreement info in 2008 and i

went down into the rabbit hole of this

sea of information on pubmed i think at

the time there were 25 million citations

there

i saw at the time about 8 000 studies on

the benefits of turmeric and i spent

almost what was it almost a year

indexing all the research for agreement

info on the topic

so right now we have over 850 diseases

that are indexed having been studied to

potentially be benefited from this herb

and

what i found was that

it has such a broad range of benefits

for humans that it almost indicated to

me that it wasn’t an accident you know

how can one herb right have so many

benefits for so many conditions that

plague humans

and it turns out when i went deeper down

the rabbit hole like with garlic and

like with tumeric they’re both part of

the angiosperm flowering plant family

which now

sub 10 70 percent of the world’s food

production still

and it turns out evolutionarily speaking

about 200 years ago our ancestors

started to collaborate with this

super family of

food bearing

plants and what happened i think is that

in order to benefit

itself

it basically started producing all these

compound

compounds that protected our health and

vice versa and it is you know isn’t

amazing because like you think about

these fruit-bearing

plants actually are giving us their

seeds and giving us nutrition so we can

help to disperse those

and we in in turn get all these benefits

to our own reproductive fitness and

health so it’s almost like this

co-evolution or

it’s almost like a love affair written

into our dna now that’s the way at least

i look at it yeah

it’s a cold ben it’s a it’s a good

exchange i mean they’re exchanging all

these natural anti anti-disease

compounds and we get to help them

survive by spreading their survival

around to other locations so yeah that’s

actually an amazing

uh amazing thing i

and so it’s um

that that they would actually

provide this and they just basically

well i’ll tell you what i’m going to

create a compound that will help you

with this and anti-inflammatory and to

regulate your blood sugars how about

that then when you spread up spread my

survival i’m like

sure

yeah well what struck me uh dr berg was

there was all this research on uh okay

ovarectomy induced models of menopause

and osteoporosis in the animal model

they would basically take the ovaries

out of the female animals and they would

develop full-blown osteoporosis and

menopausal symptoms but if you gave one

group

pomegranate or plum or orange or grape

it was as if none of those things had

happened it’s as if they maintain

longevity and youthfulness

and it turns out that if you look at

pomegranate for example it’s the

fruiting ovary of the pomegranate plant

and if you cut it right in half it

literally looks like a mammalian ovary

i know it’s like a little clue there hey

hello you know look look at the picture

it’s like a

cosmic wink and what’s even crazier is

that it has steroidal hormones that are

practically bioidentical to

testosterone as well as is it estrone

one of the three types of estrogen in

mammals so it literally is a form of hrt

and it functions as a replacement ovary

and then in the multicultural lore that

humans have come up with over time it’s

used for you know regeneration

youthfulness and it’s just you know sort

of amazing

isn’t that

funny i mean you have like the walnut

right it’s kind of shaped like a brain

exactly i think there’s some properties

in there for your brain yes there’s a

precursor for like omega-3 fatty acids

it’s ala

and then you

i mean there you also have like even in

the

the kidney bean there’s a uh

i think it’s an enzyme arginine that

detoxifies uh ammonia

um

if your kidneys are i didn’t even know

that wow that’s amazing okay

kitty bean tends to look like a kidney

doesn’t it it does or flax seed’s a

great example okay so it’s um looks like

an epithelial cell

which is what a good portion of our

tissue is comprised of including breast

and prostate tissue and then it has

mucologinous gel so just like our

elementary canal and all that tissue

you know it produces this soothing

mucous like substance and then it

actually is the most uh studied of all

intervention for epithelial cancers so

for prostate and breast cancer it is

just amazing how much research

accumulated on it for prevention and

even prevention of recurrence of these

cancers so it is very poetic that nature

made it so obvious

yeah it’s almost like um

it’s so it’s so obvious that sometimes

people will miss it like you know if it

looks like

this organ maybe it’s good for you um

now what about the um

anti-viral properties of garlic

yeah that’s an interesting topic because

recently i went down the rabbit hole of

trying to understand the difference

between

extracellular vesicles

also known as

exosomes and viral particles because

initially exosomes were described as

viral like particles and now some really

top virologists are stating they think

that many viruses because technically

even by conventional definition they

don’t live outside of us anyway they’re

obligate parasites and they’re comprised

of host tissue but the point is is that

they’re

indistinguishable from these natural

nanoparticles that our cells produce to

communicate uh between our own body

cells and then individuals within a

group

so

so i’ve always been trying to figure

that out well why is it that in the

viral infection model

you you can give garlic and it has these

profound like anti-epstein-barr virus

properties and anti um you know herpes

effects

so i think one alternative explanation

is that it increases the integrity and

health of the cell and as cells

naturally degrade in their health they

actually undergo

a process of either necrosis or program

cell death and that’s sometimes called

apoptotic bodies that are created and

those apoptotic bodies look like viral

particles and act like them and even

contain the same genetic sequences that

we identify

as being viral so i know that’s a very

confusing answer i’ll just say that if

you are

trying to fight a viral infection and

you use something like garlic

it has been found to be effective in in

various studies so whether or not it’s

eliminating these viral particles or

just helping your immunity or cells

regain resilience i probably say that

would be my my preferred explanation

that’s actually very interesting i’ll

have to dive into that at some point too

i mean i’ll i’m the same way i’ll i’ll

start um going down a rabbit hole and

then next eight hours later

i’m like

oh my gosh i need to get some work done

i just you know just completely dove off

the edge on something

um i have to have a several medical

dictionaries because uh some of the

stuff is just like so

so heavy

heavy data

um

you know i

you have all this research on your your

site um

what

i know it’s like

you probably have to be selective on

this answer but um out of everything out

of every natural

plant or

remedy or whatever what would be um

would you consider like the top of the

list that would give the greatest

benefit with the least amount of harmful

effects would it be garlic i don’t know

that’s a really good

question you know lately

um i’ve been thinking a lot about

raw food sources of you know sort of

like energizing the system because

of the discovery that there are these uh

so-called meristematic cells

which are technically immortal

they can replicate

forever in fact they’re not that

different from the cells in our germline

cell lines which are you know our sperm

and our egg if you’re a woman which are

byproducts of an infinite number of

replication cycles going back to the

last universal common ancestor believed

to have existed around 3.4 billion years

ago that that lineage has never stopped

replicating so within mortal beings

there’s actually in a more a threat of

immortality it’s a paradox but it’s true

it’s very conventional biological

science so when you eat raw food i think

the benefits aren’t so much from getting

the enzymes but by consuming the

meristematic cells there is a certain

type of energy and information that’s

transferred to the body that can cause a

complete regenerative cycle to be

induced

so that means that you could probably

just eat something raw that’s from a

plant preferably organic or biodynamic

daily and preferably with each meal and

i think that would be my primary

advocacy for health and wellness but if

i were to go and search through the

database of agreement info quickly and

look at the most compelling

if you will

regenerative

allies it would be turmeric it would be

green tea

it would be resveratrol

cacao

and then probably i would add in again

something from the cruciferous family uh

because those those foods are so

profoundly researched as being

beneficial to humanity that

i feel like you know once you see all

the research you’re like oh i really

need to be consuming these things at

least sometime during the week if i want

to live a long and healthy life right um

you said uh that that that part of it’s

that a word that i wasn’t familiar with

what was the name of the uh that uh kind

of uh

that word that describes uh

without um

immortal cells yeah um the

apical or meristematic cells they’re

meristematic yeah

would it mirror stamatic meristematic

yeah it’s a type of stem cell that if

you look at say the cover of my book

regenerate i have a romanesca

cauliflower on it that amazing fractal

you know and at the top of the curd at

the top of the spiral is this little

population of stem cells which are

literally transducing from what i

believe is the quantum

vacuum which is a plenitude it has near

infinite amount of energy and

information

a near limitless amount of biomass

so so it’s it’s actually doing this 24 7

and that cell line doesn’t seem to be

prone to error even though it’s

replicating which is itself

kind of a miracle if you think about the

way we conceive of you know the entropic

world that supposedly biological systems

are subject to so there’s a neg entropy

constant going on and and that type of

cell i believe is why there are cases in

you know the sort of like history around

people living to way beyond like the

theoretical maximum of 130 years of age

maybe 20 200 years or longer and and the

lore around some of these individuals is

that they consumed wild herbs and you

know they’re living by consuming

um energy directly from the vacuum you

know the sort of the quantum field and i

think that i actually cover this in my

book because there’s a lot of compelling

research on this um

so you know that’s a whole nother spin

to things but i i do think the raw food

has a certain magic and mystery to it

that we can take advantage of

you know you know what really sucks is

that you have these

these cancer cells that become immortal

so here you have the cell

ourselves you know leave to a certain

point almost so you have this darn

cancer cell that oh you get to live

forever okay well that’s not fair i mean

it’s just like they lose that

that program

and so it’s kind of i guess it’s a lower

level harmonica of what you’re talking

about well that’s a great example

because that was actually in part the

inspiration behind my writing of the

book regenerate because the largest part

of the book is actually on cancer

because cancer is actually

a representation of the immortality

that’s embedded within

the human body yeah only it’s the shadow

expression because for example whenever

a smoker smokes a cigarette the

epithelial lining of the arteries gets

damaged there’s a recruitment of you

know endothelial progenitor cells and

other stem cells to constantly heal that

area up so what happens over time

because even the cytokines released to

cause the proliferation are similar to

cancer

cytokines is that there is an exhaustion

of the stem cell reserve and

at some point epigenetically the cells

lose

their sense of where to go in the body

it might be like oh i’m i’m a heart cell

but i’m going to go to the kidney you

know it starts to lose its context so

technically

the

immortal immortality and the power that

is accessed by these stem cells which is

similar to what i was referring to in

the plants with the meristematic cells

is a representation of the infinite

immortal energy that actually we have

access to but due to

preventable often exposures from

non-native emf and toxicants and

constant psychogenic stress on our

physiology things can go awry

so

but is a really good example that you

pointed out

um

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tell me what your viewpoint is on this

um

you know the cancer cells when the cells

become damaged they

they adapt

for survival

there’s a um obviously an ancient

program

that’s tapped into which is the cancer

cell this is just what

i don’t know what i’m i found i don’t

know

if it’s 100 true but it’s just

it’s like a backup it’s a plan b to

survive and that old program

was very basic yes and it uh ran in a

different type of fuel uh didn’t need

oxygen and it just basically

starts to it’s really rugged and it

loses it you know it’s it’s almost like

what you said probably back then there

was not a um

a mortality uh that wasn’t programmed in

there

so it was like original

original type

um

that’s amazing yeah you’re referring to

a explanation which is that cancer is a

representation of

the body basically taking advantage of

an ancient genetic tool kit that’s

to by default bury deep within sort of

the programs of the cell

and the default state of the cell is

immortality

um metazoa complex animal life which

again emerged around 250 million years

ago made a deal with itself if you will

that somatic cells would perish but the

germline cell still remains immortalness

passed on of course through the zygote

so

but the the cancer cell is a

representation of the fact that when

conditions in the environment become so

toxic and so unnatural

ultimately that ancient program is

reinvoked and then because it ultimately

will take the host down it’s it’s

obviously not

suitable but it is actually the instinct

of the body to try to heal that is even

behind recruiting that ancient program

so it’s a way in a way of understanding

that cancer isn’t just some inexorably

lethal chaotic force out there some

boogeyman but it’s something the body

does in response to conditions that are

not optimal and in fact i like to say

you know we know cancer isn’t caused

from a lack of chemotherapy or radiation

but it is caused by a lack of certain

foods containing certain information and

certain compounds so it could be

cruciferous with sulforaphane or garlic

with allicin

and or it could be the lack of the

micrornas needed within certain foods in

order to continue to properly regulate

the expression of genes and

interestingly micrornas are technically

transcriptionally they silence the

expression of certain genes so those are

often

oncogenes or cancer associated genes

that micrornas suppress

so plant foods berries

things like this almost universally seem

to be able to silence certain

cancer-related genes

fascinating

and so what um how can people find out

about you you have um your website is it

you have the main website right yeah

greenmaninfo.com we have a free

newsletter and it’s a database that’s

open source so anyone can go in and

search the 60 000 plus um abstracts that

are indexed across 10 000 health topics

so they can just type it in and

hopefully get the information they need

wow that’s awesome well thank you so

much i’ll put a link down below and i

really appreciate that

thank you so much i appreciate you

having me on

absolutely