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welcome back everyone I have a special

guest today to talk about some real

interesting uh

effects of doing um

infrared

um on gout and uh his name is Dr Ben

Pearl he’s a podiatrist and uh he’s been

in the field for quite some time so

welcome to the interview doc oh thank

you for having me I’ve been following

you for a while and uh I really like the

varied approaches that you take you know

give people some armamentarium that they

can do right right from the home in the

local drugstore or health food store

that’s like that’s great because you do

the same thing you uh you’re I think you

you kind of think outside the box I’ve

watched some of your videos so that’s

why I wanted to interview and just kind

of pick your brain

today I want to kind of focus on this

gout a lot of people have gout and they

they don’t like to take the medication

because it could potentially create some

wild side effects so

um I know you have various Therapies in

your clinic if we could just uh focus in

on this red light red light therapy and

there’s different types of red light

that we’ll talk about on gout and so

thanks for being on and I won’t take too

much of your time but um a couple

questions to get right off the bat um

so it’s a little confusing for people

when they talk about red light because

you have

different spectrums or different

wavelengths you have the the far and the

near infrared

um can you just simply explain like is

there much significance with therapy or

is it do does these different types of

frequencies create different effects

right so I think when we’re talking

about what most people

talk about in terms of infrared and LEDs

these are very safe units that have

nice musculoskeletal benefits nice

clearing out of joint synovitis and

tendonitis and you know we’re talking

specifically about gout can even do

things that help cell permeability which

as you know is the exchange of ions and

uric acid is essentially something that

the body is over producing so it can

help with that whole process of cellular

uh exchange and the cell getting rid of

the waste byproducts as far as the

spectrums which you mentioned the lower

levels aren’t as strong so they’re going

to require more time more more dosage

time to apply them but there’s nothing

wrong with you talk about the the

frequencies closer to visible light like

the I guess it’s the the near or the far

or not yeah it’s the near right near

infrared right right got it right

as we get into things like laser at you

know different amplitudes then we have

accompanying heat and then there those

obviously are more clinic-based

situations although there are as you

know uh and on the market now home uh

laser units that are

um the FDA has approved for home use

distribution and the best way to do that

is really to go online and do your due

diligence to make sure that they’re you

know legitimate uh uh devices but those

are getting into a like a different

spectrum of light and and they have uh

their own uh effects and what some

people do is they’ll do combinations of

therapy where they’ll do some at

different frequencies and

that has the effect of the body

not getting used to one particular

frequency and even within a frequency

treatment when you have the ability to

change Cycles as some protocols uh where

you can change Cycles you’ll get

different lights uh operating at

different intervals that can have also

potentiating effects on healing the body

so when you do infrared on a patient

that comes in with gout typically

are you going to use a specific

protocol are you going to do it like a

mixed frequency or are you going to

because I know some I guess some red

light therapies have multiple

frequencies are you just gonna can you

give me more specifics on maybe what

someone could do at home related to the

red light

right I would make sure that they just

look that it is a bona fide infrared

unit that has

you know looking at the reviews and uh

making sure that the company is not just

giving you something that is they’re

purporting to be at you know a certain

standard and I think that would be the

best way to vet that out

um you know as an example this one does

not have the one that I have in and that

I’m using in in conjunction with another

modality does not have uh multiple

frequencies associated with this will

this will put out one frequency uh what

we can do is we can adapt you know the

time uh on this one

and I’m all about trying to do mixed

modalities of energy so that you know

you’re having the body get different

effects that can work in Tandem and in

Synergy totally

um so if some let’s say someone has gout

and they apply this therapy to their

their toe

um how long would an average treatment

would be like 10 minutes 5 minutes 15

minutes what would you do I think I

think if you’re applying the home-based

units you want to go about 20 minutes at

a minimum and it would even be good to

do that twice a day interval so you

could do it morning and night and as you

know

the Nader points of the metabolism you

know typically in you know early early

in the morning and and later in the

night you know as our body is kind of

coming to a more uh lower uh relaxed

phase or those are the points where

these attacks generally are more

prevalent and the blood flow is in

vigorous Etc so those are good timing

points that you could apply at the

therapies and you know it also happens

to coincide with the work schedule for

most people totally and then tell us a

little bit about

um excuse me

um what kind of results does it happen

right away does it take some time

multiple treatments a week or so or two

weeks what’s your thought on that I’m

glad you mentioned that because

you need to be doing especially with the

gout flare some of the things that you

mentioned on your videos to affect the

uric acid production and excretion in

tandem with I would not want somebody to

think that this is a standalone this is

part of a puzzle and this is one piece

of the puzzle where we’re using energy

in complement with other things that

we’re doing with diet modification

obviously clearing out with hydration so

that the body can resolve the Gowdy

attack now for longer term maintenance

that’s something where you might have to

just cut down to like a once a day

maintenance treatment as opposed to

doing two treatments a day as you know

one of the big culprits to gout is this

fructose right and so many people don’t

don’t connect how much fructose they

actually consume and they think oh yeah

I’m eating natural fruits well that has

some fructose in it and so does normal

table sugar has fructose

um and um you know from a evolutionary

standpoint

um you know we didn’t consume nearly the

amount of fructose that we do now and

fructose really turns into uric acid at

a pretty high rate

um but even the evolution just fruits

right in general

um if you take a look

uh at where certain fruits came from the

amount of sweetness was like way way way

lower we’ve hybrided these fruits to the

point where we’re just like flooding the

body with so much fructose so that’s one

of the things that I found if someone

just cuts that out

huge huge changes in the intensity of

the gout so we definitely need to

take in consideration the diet part

um and certain things that really spike

it and even if you’re on the ketogenic

diet Xylitol apparently uh can increase

what’s called pseudoga which could be

oxalates and things like that can

irritate that toe so you know I’m on

keto diet I’m not eating any fructose

I’m not eating sugar but you’re doing

tons of Xylitol that can be like a

hidden thing but that’s why I wanted to

bring you on because there’s two things

that I want to talk about which is

infrared and also electromagnetic type

therapy too you use that can you just

touch on that therapy as well because

that can also be something that like a

home therapy as well yeah yeah so I’m

going to show you first uh a larger base

unit that I have here and I I like this

so much

Dr Byrd that I have one of these units

at home what what it basically is is a

copper wiring that produces a magnetic

field uh and it’s Electro charged and

unlike

you remember the craze with magnets in

your shoes they just weren’t high enough

Gauss to affect the bigger changes that

we would be looking for for Cellular

Exchange what is the word Gauss what is

that is this is that just a level of

magnetic energy or what is Gauss so so

Gauss is the power the electric power

charge so for instance some of the mats

that are widely available now and I

won’t get into names and advertising but

they’re widely available they’ve been uh

sort of the rage for health and wellness

they’ll have something like .6 Gauss

okay and those are great for health and

wellness this particular unit goes up to

four thousand gals now you don’t know

yeah yeah

so you have to be uh making sure for

instance that if I had this near my

chest that I don’t have a pacemaker

because it would interrupt it would

interrupt dropped the signal on my cell

phone if I put this right up to it and

you’ll see that you know the jacket

lines

Etc so this is a larger thing these are

closed Loops so they are purported to be

safer than what’s emitting from this

from the cell phone in terms of the in

terms of the energy and that’s you know

I think a relevant Point

um as with anything you have to do your

due diligence if you’re looking for a

home unit and there are sites that

review some of the home units that for

several hundred dollars as opposed to

several thousand dollars you can find

what it is is a smaller ring unit so

instead of you know have being housed in

a big plastic it might just have a

smaller Loop about the size of a quarter

uh or a half dollar and it’s a very

flexible copper wire ring and there

might be a couple of these that you

place on the let’s say it was gout on

your big toe for instance and then the

Box you know the power charge unit will

be a much smaller it’ll be you know this

probably about the size a little bit

like half a loaf of bread kind of energy

unit as opposed to a much larger

microwave uh size unit

um I like the ones

that generate more in the uh let’s say

several hundred cows than the ones that

are 0.6 Gauss not that there’s anything

wrong even at those lower levels they’ve

been shown up regulation of bone

production even at 0.6 Gauss because the

frequency or the Hertz is also important

that’s the other key to the puzzle

so the more sophisticated the unit the

more options on frequency my unit for

instance goes up to 7 to 60 hertz on the

frequency and some of the smaller units

they just won’t have as many options on

the frequency Cycles

so on a gout situation what kind of

frequency or Hertz would you use

I go all the way up as sometimes as high

as uh the 60 percent which is about 2500

Gauss and I would do the frequency cycle

going from about seven to about 28 Hertz

uh and what it does is it will go

through an oscillation of that

particular frequency for let’s say two

minutes and then jump to the next

frequency and so on and then just go in

a loop and I think you mentioned when we

talked before that you can actually see

some difference in swelling just by one

treatment right and swelling comes down

right in some cases I’ve been able to

measure the circumference of the body

part and it’ll decrease let’s say in the

ankle three quarters of a centimeter and

I do these measurements and I’ve done

them on some of my videos to just

document different cases uh so that

people have an idea of the range of

things to expect because every every

patient responds a little bit

differently as as you know

that’s great so okay so electromagnetic

fields and then also um which I talked

about the dangers but if it’s controlled

like that in a ring I think it’s going

to be a lot better

um have you ever heard of um

using like methylene blue with the light

to potentiate the effect

I like that idea because of the color

spectrum so it’s something that I’ll

have to research you know so this stuff

is is all related I mean it it comes

down to as Elemental as like thinking

about photosynthesis and and how light

affects plant uh energy production it’s

the same basic core idea with this with

the different application so anything uh

color related is going to have uh some

effect on energy

yeah it’s uh some fascinating new data

and even they’re they’re doing it right

now researching on cancer where they’re

taking the methylene blue which is kind

of like has some really interesting

properties to your mitochondria and then

throwing a photo because the infrared

can penetrate the body so it penetrates

in the body and it potentiates the

treatment in the mitochondria and it

works on that

electron chain which is kind of just

like the the conveyor belt of electrons

and so

um since most

problems are

mitochondria related

um then you’re you’re going right at the

heart of this thing so that’s something

that’ll be interesting to experiment on

just adding methylene blue because

methylene blue tends to go where you

need it and it has some fascinating

effects of mopping up electrons if you

have a leaky mitochondria and then of

course in the big toe

what I would be interested in is we’ll

just have to experiment on them but take

methylene blue do the these other

therapies and see which see what creates

the biggest effect but um because we’re

we’re trying to deal with

at the bottom level to sell we’re trying

to improve the cell function right we’re

trying to get rid of stuff we’re trying

to make sure electrons aren’t creating

so many free radicals and uh

um and so this goes yeah this goes hand

in hand with that uh in terms of ion

exchange our cells basically our sodium

potassium pumps so people think back to

chemistry physiology oh I remember

something about sodium and potassium

with the nerve and vaguely about the

cell but every cell whether it be a bone

cell smooth muscle cell has sodium

potassium exchange so our our bodies are

basically like batteries that respond to

energy and what you mentioned with color

if we can you know just like our car you

know a dark Upholstery and we’re

absorbing more light so there’s there’s

definitely implications there and I’ll

be curious to see once I do the

literature search how that might be able

to be incorporated into protocols

yeah so so I’ve been doing some videos

recently on

um

you know looking at oxygen and CO2

looking at different PHS inside and

outside the cell how can you you know

because in order to have a battery to

have this energy uh built up in the cell

uh then to keep it normal you need these

gradients these differences these these

two different

um either two different electrolytes two

different ph’s two different

um

gradients of concentration so you create

this flow and when we’re dealing with

crystals building up waste building up

lactic acid building up

um there seems to be some damage in the

membrane so I think the wave of the

future is going to be

going away from drugs and more to these

natural things so but it’s brand new

it’s like people are just now starting

to look at it but there’s not going to

be a lot probably of

research because there’s not a lot of

money in doing some of these simple

things unfortunately especially with

methyl methylene blue because you can’t

patent it anymore it’s like

um it’s one of the first drugs but it’s

seems to do some Wonders on

um restoring the oxygen into the

mitochondria mopping up the excess

electrons so you can uh you can then

heal the mitochondria so

yeah so anyway I just wanted to throw it

out there to your point about research

too I was speaking with a company that

um is doing an IRB on

cellular healing for wound healing for

like diabetics with electromagnetic in

particular so you can like infra

infrared or oh for for an

investigational review board where

they’re submitting to the NIH

the uh and just so people understand why

isn’t there more research on this well

to do an IRB first you have to have

funding you have to have an application

to the government several thousand

dollars so you really have to believe in

your product to even start that the

second layer is with the pandemic

things have gotten pushed to the back

seat so if there’s a cancer research

grant that is going to be at probably a

higher priority even though you would

think oh my gosh diabetic ulcers it’s

it’s a pandemic of diabetes in our in

our uh till a two cities Nation with you

know obesity and so forth but

nonetheless those are very slow to get

to the review board to even take action

to start the study so that’s why even on

things like you said where oh there’s

not as much money even on when you have

a company backing to we’d like to you

know move this science forward it is

just glacial speed sometimes I know

it’s crazy but anyway I really

appreciate your time I know you probably

you have a patient sitting there but um

listen

um I’m gonna put your website link Down

Below in the description so people can

get a hold of you

um for maybe other related issues as

well that they might have but thank you

DOC for spending the time and I

appreciate it and uh we’ll follow up

with some some additional information in

the future

I really enjoyed the interview Dr Berg

thanks so much for having me on your

your program I continue to learn from

you I love the idea of collaboration and

uh exchange of ideas

and

um I’m telling you if folks Dr McCoy’s

little thing with the that he was doing

in the the old Star Treks that is uh a

reality now uh we just as you mentioned

we want to dial in on the protocols so

that we have as much science backing

each study that we do each patient

though becomes a part of the discussion

where you have anecdotal to build up the

body of uh knowledge

awesome

great thanks much