Type 1 Diabetics MUST Do This to Reduce Insulin ｜ DrEricBergDC

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well hello everyone today

um I want to talk about type 1 diabetes

in relationship to doing keto as well as

intermittent fasting there’s been a lot

of questions on this topic

um type 1 diabetes is a situation where

you can’t produce insulin anymore the

cells that make insulin of the pancreas

just are broken and this is the problem

because now you can’t regulate blood

sugars so your blood sugar goes really

really high so a person that’s type 1 is

dependent on

um insulin now what did they do before

they discovered insulin they did low

carb right because if you lower your

carb you decrease the need for insulin

and that’s really the point about this

interview with Manuel who is a type 1

diabetic is that the goal is to take the

least amount of insulin possible to have

normal blood sugars because everyone’s

worried about high blood sugar but what

about the high insulin you have to take

the damage is just as bad as the high

sugar so

welcome manual I appreciate you taking

the time out to tell us about your story

super excited to be here dog absolutely

a pleasure uh this is something that I

I’ve obviously felt that responsibility

as I’ve gotten better

in the subject I’ve gotten more control

over my body like the fact that you are

here giving me the opportunity to share

this knowledge that I’ve accumulated um

I’m definitely honored by it

awesome how long have you been a type 1

diabetic Corp so it’s going on 21 years

now I believe I’m 41 I developed the

condition

um when I was 19 or 20 years old and uh

I I have a a theory that I believe that

I was probably and you can tell me what

your thoughts are doc I think I

mentioned this before I believe I was a

type 2 diabetic but then I didn’t pay

attention to my body at all and I didn’t

know what the heck was happening for a

few years potentially until I I was

actually living in Mexico and then I

lost so much weight and I was going for

the diabetic process of like having to

go to the bathroom every 30 minutes and

I couldn’t sleep well and I was weak and

then my father was the one that told me

you’re describing to me diabetes and

that was the first time that I even

understood what diabetes meant so I

think that I was a few years already in

the making until the pancreas collapsed

on me that’s my theory and I could be

wrong so

this is an interesting point I just I

won’t spend too much time but I want to

just mention typically type 1 is

autoimmune but but what about

what about a situation where a lot of

the type 2 diabetics

um after a while have to start taking

insulin because the cells of the

pancreas just start dying out now this

brings up an interesting point if you if

you never had the autoimmune situation

and this came from just going from type

2 to type 1

who knows who knows if that cell can’t

come back I mean I would never rule it

out as uh impossibility so that’s good

data okay so here’s the thing the first

question is um

you before you did keto or intermittent

fasting you were taking how many units

of insulin per deck

so uh I think um I can I can say that I

have been pretty much skinny my whole

life

um all the way to obviously the age of

30 something I’m 41 now metabolism

started going downhill I wasn’t eating

that well that healthy and um

I believe that I was averaging before

Keto

somewhere around 40 units a day which by

the way I go to the doctor’s office and

it’s crazy how low the standards are and

you know that really well doc like the

medical community standards are

extremely low compared to your standards

that you have for People’s Health I go

to the doctor and I tell them yeah I’m

I’m taking 40 units a day of my fast

acting insulin and I’m taking uh 25

minutes a day of my long acting insulin

two types of insulin and they look at my

a1cs and they look at my body in general

and they say wow you’re in really good

shape which tells me I always Justified

and I use that as like oh I’m in really

good shape I don’t really have to do

much of anything and my wife would

always say but but that doesn’t make any

sense because there’s so much more that

we can get with our bodies and how much

better we could get and I’m like oh yeah

we’ll see so I used to take a lot of

that insulin and I felt it was okay

because uh when compared to other

diabetics that were being treated on

these practices the doctors were blown

away with me some of these guys were

taking 200 units a day

like you know today yeah because the

average the average is uh 0.5 to 1 1

um times your kilograms in weight so I

don’t know let’s say you were 180 pounds

you’d be taking about 40 to 80 units per

day on average but that was um but some

people yeah they’re like 200 which means

they’re eating a lot of carbohydrates to

the people to push down that sugar

so I think I think I was in the low end

so I guess I was a a good behaving

diabetic all right compared to where I’m

at today doc

yeah I think it was absolutely terrible

uh now that I look at it as like the

hindsight I’m like oh my god there was

so much more to accomplish with the

correct system I you know obviously I’ve

been close to you for many years now I

wish I would have paid attention earlier

doc uh a lot more in detail because my

life has dramatically changed even

though I was at the lowest end of

insulin use

um I was still using anywhere from 20

units a day on a good day

to 50 units a day on a day in which I

misbehaved meaning that I I tried a

couple of pizza slices I got four kids

so things in my kitchen can get crazy so

I I maybe put things in my mouth that I

shouldn’t have so you know then we go

into insulin resistance problems and

other things because as I eat that stuff

my body cannot handle it like if I had a

piece of pizza and I have to

dramatically increase my insulin use so

on a bad day 50 maybe even six units of

insulin that my body’s not responding to

that was and I felt that I was pretty

decent because like you said right now

40 to 80 is the average I think I was

generally in the lowest side of things

so that’s not it wasn’t terrible right

now I can tell you it is terrible

so so

um so you get on keto you start doing

fasting

um all of a sudden this is an adjustment

you’re like well wait a second I’m

taking a lot less insulin you probably

even nervous you’re taking so so small

amounts like you you went down to uh

what was correct me if I’m wrong but it

was like three units or something units

three units right now a bad day for me a

bad day is five units of insulin you

know what I told you I told your dog

that uh 20 was a good day 50 is a bad

day so right now I I went down to two on

a good day and five on a bad day all

right and it’s it’s it’s pretty dramatic

so like based on on my theory at the

beginning of the interview which you

said that who knows maybe I was not even

a type 1 to begin with ever so

I’ve been decreasing it so so the one

thing that I found is the the long

acting one I use one called Lantus uh

the long acting one I’ve been lowering

it and I’m doing I went from 25 to Now

using 10 a day this is one time a day 10

units so that one is the one that I have

felt that is the most important one that

if I completely take it away like here’s

the thing I’m only eating once a day

right now and I love it and I’m not

hungry like something that we can talk

about too like I I really it’s it’s it

gives me goosebumps because it’s an

experience that I I didn’t even know was

possible like the whole thing of one

meal a day I was like this is not

realize it’s not superhuman I can’t do

that now it’s just for me really normal

like I I can go by an entire day and not

feel hungry and it’s amazing and you

kind of transition and so you go for the

path of like first the addiction to food

and the impulses of food then you get

out of the addiction and now it’s a

mental side of things so now you move

out of the mental

limiting factor that you cannot do that

and now it’s like oh wow so I don’t

really need this this doesn’t make sense

those french fries they’re not mine I

don’t want to put them on my body and

and even though I have this enormous

movement in my house because I have five

humans living on the house and all these

little humans that eat all kinds of

stuff

I don’t put any of that stuff in my body

so it’s been a dramatic change and I

think it’s been now I’m on the eighth uh

full week of like behaving well uh I

think maybe I broke it once or twice

very lightly and but but it’s it’s a

it’s a great thing to to make food

um the diet something that is easy to do

it’s not it’s not painful like going

through the system uh doing the keto

diet intermittent fasting it really is

uh light work it’s not really exhausting

it’s not really difficult but I can tell

you this for anybody that hasn’t gone

through that uh for the last 20 years I

felt it was impossible and I felt it

wasn’t real and I just pushed myself for

about two to three weeks it was

difficult but once I got through that

period then now I’m just cruising it

really is like optional uh to you know

the things that I put in my body are are

not in uh so this training so this

transition period I want to talk about

that because I I kind of were back and

forth talking about the transition

because you’re what happened was your

blood sugars went down to like 50 or

something it went too low right and so I

was using too much insulin yes so I

started every single night I was waking

up in the middle of the night four to

five times because my sugar levels were

dropping dropping dropping yeah yeah so

here you are uh on this trend and this

is why the transition is always tricky

you have to get supervision and all this

and get with your doctor to work with

you but what’ll happen you keep taking

the same amount of insulin

and it goes the opposite direction

starts going down and then it gets too

low and you get shaky weak uh you know

fainting you know that type of stuff

um so what do they normally tell you eat

some sugar right

um I mentioned maybe have protein or or

something like that instead of the sugar

because then we just like spike it up

and then we bring it back down we need

more insulin so uh you you work that out

you worked it out and you kept adjusting

until you got The Sweet Spot

um you were a little concerned because

it was going like three three units I’m

like well you know

that’s the thing is like if your body

doesn’t require all this insulin then

why are you giving it to it you know

it’s like it just it has a function of

regulating blood sugar so if you’re not

eating sugar and not and also eating

does trigger insulin too so because

you’re doing one meal a day

uh that’s that’s another point and then

the other point that happened with uh

Manuel is that he um

one night he ate a lot of protein and he

woke up I think you woke up in the

morning and your blood sugar was pretty

high right

yeah so so it’s funny because uh

obviously I’ve had the incredible

privilege of having you guide me a

little bit along the way and

um I had a late dinner uh one night and

it’s breaking the routine I had a a

dinner somewhere around nine o’clock I

ate a big steak and I thought that I was

doing something that was okay for my

body and I woke up with like very very

high sugar levels

um it was nine o’clock at night when I

ate the steak so here’s the thing about

protein as you mentioned

it just it’s gonna It’s Gonna Creep the

sugar levels up it’s gonna do it now

it’s not gonna do it

so quick like if you eat a a candy bar

or if you eat like a soda or something

but it will continue to creep it up so I

have a an app that I use to monitor my

sugar levels and it was I ate the piece

of steak at nine o’clock at night and

all the way to 3 A.M the sugar level was

stable uh but it was slowly creeping up

um from 80 to 90 to 120 to 130 and then

I’m at some point around four or five

a.m it just exploded and it went to the

200s and I ended up waking up with 285

or something around that and then I wake

up to a message which is almost like I

don’t know if you were like uh reading

minds or some kind of experience that is

like Supernatural but then Dr Burke

sends me a message that says hey just so

you know Sugar Sugar sometimes a protein

when you have too much is going to

increase your sugar levels and I’m like

what it’s it hadn’t happened to me

before so the timing was um

maybe 12 12 hours late doc because if I

would have gotten that message in the

night before I wouldn’t have had that

big steak but it was it coincided with

me understanding and and getting that

lesson about also like listening view if

you have a a large amount of protein it

would also

um keep creeping up your sugar levels

and that’s something to to keep in mind

now I’ll I will mention guys that I used

to have

um my sugar bills that they sell for

diabetics it’s a big item people buy it

a lot the the diabetics carry them in

their pockets and they use them

um as a solution to the low sugar

episodes because it’s it’s very

difficult to replicate uh what your

pancreas does naturally so the diabetics

just eating all this trash being outside

a routine not really taking care of

their health they just eat eat and then

inject hoping to replicate what the

pancreas does naturally and they very

often fail here’s a beautiful thing

I have a lot of those bills and I have

buckets and buckets of them doc I do not

use them anymore I don’t use my sugar

pills

um I was using them back then when I was

going into the adjustment process of

like wait a second I don’t need 25

minutes let me go to 20. oh that’s still

too much let me go to 18. oh my God I’m

still lowering 13 let me go to 12 let me

go to 10. like so I went for that

process and I had to use sugar bills

because a steak will not increase your

let’s say that I wake up in the middle

of the night 1am and I have a low sugar

episode and it’s at 47 or 52. I cannot

go to my kitchen and eat a piece of

steak because a steak will increase the

sugar but it will take a lot longer to

increase the sugar levels so my only

option at that point the adjustment was

like I need sugar right now because my

sugar levels are going down and I’m

starting to sweat and it’s a it’s a

danger thing that your sugar levels go

too low the steak is going to take

longer to bring that sugar level up the

the point is that as I got into the

adjustment process I I the last time

that I used a sugar pill was probably

six weeks ago doc the last time so if I

show you my sugar levels they are stable

throughout the entire day and yes when I

eat too much protein like last night

perfect example we had another dinner I

went to a famous steakhouse here in

Tampa called Burns and uh I went with a

client of mine I had a big steak

somewhere around seven o’clock eight

o’clock not that late but that steak

gave me some trouble because it just

keeps on going for hours and hours and

hours so I have a little bit higher

sugar level than usual but in general I

just put very little insulin and here’s

the here’s the other thing Doc insulin

becomes so much more effective when you

have you know this whole insulin

resistance thing it disappears so now if

let’s say that I have a 190 back in the

day day maybe two months ago I would use

six or seven units to bring that down to

70 or 80. right now I put one unit and

it goes down to 100 or 280. so the

insulin my body really responds very

well just because I have this system or

this diet in place it’s it’s a win

across the board that’s for sure

that’s so true because you you start

your insulin becomes more sensitive and

responsive to the triggers so versus

before it just takes forever

um the other thing I want to bring up is

exercise right so you you mentioned when

you exercise you’re like whoa the blood

sugars came down because you burned off

all those sugars but another thing you

could do too if they’re high is you can

go exercise to burn off this sugar right

yeah so

um I I think that if you were to ask me

um what’s the most important component

of everything that I’ve done

um of course the diet is huge It’s a

combination of all these things uh but

for me they’re working out is something

that I have never done routinely and

it’s very important for people to know

what are we talking about with working

out what type of workout because I’m a

tennis player I play tennis since I was

like a little kid

that wasn’t enough of a workout to give

me the results like it’s it’s called Uh

aerobic aerobic uh exercise dog yeah so

so it’s just not enough so I I started

doing in my case what worked out and I’m

doing it three to four times a week

that’s it uh but when I do it it almost

works like insulin I am using a machine

called tonal

um I’m not necessarily promoting it I’m

just saying this is my solution because

I’m a very busy guy so I have a digital

weights machine attached to my my garage

and it’s very cool there’s many

variations of it

um whether you go to a gym or whatever

for me a workout routine of 30 minutes

three to four times a week that’s all it

takes

that has been a major part of like my

body not needing a lot of insulin so I’m

still like in that process like okay I

think I’ve lost somewhere around 13

pounds in the last eight weeks uh I feel

energetic like in my case I used to have

like major 4 pm crashes those crashes

are gone like I have zero I have

consistent energy throughout the entire

day and people look at me and they say

even my daughter she’s 13 years old and

she says Papa You Gotta Eat You Gotta

Eat something he’s not all right and I’m

like baby look at my sugar levels I’m

great I’m stable look at my energy look

at my face I am ready to go I don’t

really need

um none of this stuff so it’s hard for

people to adjust themselves and my

question becomes like who decided that

we needed to eat three times a day who’s

the person that said hey we got it that

free meals a day it was a human being

that decided that at some point a long

time ago and that became like a trend

which everybody agreed to it instead of

like gotta find something that works for

you it makes you stronger look at me I’m

high energy I’m stable I’m using less

medicine I I can guarantee you the

pharmaceutical industry is not gonna

like this but I don’t need much medicine

anymore it’s it’s so yeah I think

insulin is expensive too isn’t it it’s

very expensive

um I do unfortunately my company has

company insurance and uh it’s still

expensive every time that I have to go

buy it

it’s a few hundred dollars uh to right

to actually buy it uh it used to be a

lot more dog because if you if you

recall uh before the Obama Care

um if you didn’t have a company