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hey everyone got a special guest today

and he is the CEO and the founder of a

company called keto mojo and that’s one

of my favorite units I use it I promote

it it’s one of the better ones because

it has several things and that’s why I

wanted to bring you on to kind of

explain everyone what is it why is it

different and what can you do that it’s

different than other meters but when

you’re when you’re doing keto or

intermittent fasting it’s really really

important to know where you’re at you

know and also do testing especially in

relationship to eating and I mean

fasting the worst thing is like well

it’s not working in my in ketosis am I

not in ketosis and the other thing is

when you actually do the urine strips

people have a confusion about this like

what’s the difference between a urine

strip and actually a blood test you know

at first you may show ketones in the

urine but as soon as you become more

efficient and you adapt you’re gonna

want to get a unit that’s the blood type

blood tests you can actually have a more

accurate so why don’t we just just go

ahead and address that point and then

we’ll have a series of questions that I

want to ask you yeah thank you dr. Burke

for inviting me on so you know we have a

phrase here at keto mojo that

measurement is the first step that leads

to control and once you can control

something you can improve upon it so

there are three types of ketones you’ve

got acetyl acetate acetone and beta

hydroxy butyrate so the acetyl acetate

is what is spilled into the urine when

you just mentioned when you are first

starting and it’s very kind of like

subjective you know like what shade of

pink do I have and realize that you’re

only measuring what was spilled over a

period of time since you lost

urinated and hydration can have effects

on that so some of these dehydrated

they’re going to look like wow I’m

really deep from herbally it must be

great but no you might actually just be

a little bit dehydrated so acetone

represent represents about 30% of the

energy that’s available to the body and

then he gets quick very volatile

chemical that quickly gets shunted into

beta-hydroxybutyrate

which is far more a stable compound

and that’s what we measure in blood and

that represents about 70% of the energy

that is available to to the body and so

that’s why in all clinical trials and

all studies they measure blood because

the blood as a quantitative analysis and

it matches to an international standard

that is laid down for it

the last method of testing is acetone

which is which is done in the breath and

we’ve seen we’ve seen the rise of

different breath analyzers and that the

challenge with those as much people

don’t know that unless the sensor is

replaceable in that if you’ve had any

sugar alcohols in the last 60 minutes or

chewing gum or alcohol itself and a

variety of other things you can actually

blow out that sensor because what you’re

basically is coating the sensor with all

the sugar alcohols that are on your

breath not allowing the acetone to come

on in and those breast senses were

originally done for actually as

breathalyzers fault for alcohol which is

a much bigger if you will molecule and

that’s the problem with those so you can

end up there having just an expensive

paperweight really on your desk so all

studies all doctors all clinicians blood

is definitely the way to go but with our

meter we don’t do blood as well in the

blood we’ve measured not only the

ketones

but the glucose as well as two strips to

do that yeah that’s what that’s one of

the things that when people get a meter

they they do I do get the blood I get

the ketone well this one actually does

both which is really cool

now you do need two different types of

strips yeah so so yeah and using two

ships you know if you’re only measuring

one part you’re only seeing half the

picture and you can actually you know

first of all and the basic part is like

how close am I getting to ketosis so

measuring your ketones for that you see

yourself gently rising up once you get

to the threshold of 0.5 millimoles

that’s the threshold of nutritional

ketosis and between 0.5 and roughly 3 is

sort of like the optimal zone higher

isn’t is not necessarily better and

don’t go chasing ketones out there you

to work out what your bio individuality

is and and to do that it sort of let get

to learn what your baseline is so first

you get the joy of the gamification if

you will like how close am I getting to

ketosis if you’re not getting there

what’s going on in in your diet and what

you are doing to help you that’s

preventing you and that’s where glucose

can come on in and I liked it you call

it’s looting out your trigger foods so

Glueck glucose moves really quickly in

the body you know if you have ice cream

or carbohydrates that very quickly

within 60 minutes is going to be

converted into glucose and then the body

has to have an insulin response to that

to manager otherwise you get diabetes so

you will see your glucose spiked on up

really quickly if you’ve had a food that

contains glucose on it and then that can

tell you pain maybe I should avoid that

don’t generally keep weak say keep the

the swings under 30 milligrams per

deciliter for Americans well that’s

roughly 1.7 for Europeans and millimoles

and glucose you want to keep those those

Rises very kind of like small so that’s

like number one you can do with a

glucose drip and one point about that

like the higher the higher the glucose

reading the less ketones you’re gonna

actually have because the body is going

to be running on that glucose and not

the ketones bingo it will preferentially

say hey I’ve got to use the glucose and

manage that which means it won’t produce

anymore ketones and then you’ll slowly

see your ketones drift down ketones move

very very slowly you gotta think of them

like a slow-moving Tortoise and the hare

thing in that respect so the second

thing you can do is I have a perp

personally I have an issue with sugar

alcohols sorbitol respiratory towles any

of the towles what I find is I might not

get that glycemic spike what I do so I

find is that my my ketones start to

drift down and what that tells me is I

may not have been having a glycemic

response glucose going up but might I

have had an insulin response to those

sugar alcohols and this is one of the

things that really comes into play just

because it says keto on the label

doesn’t mean it’s keno for you

everybody’s a little bit different in

that respect and that’s why we relate to

proteins about bio individuality you

know one size does not fit all and you

kind of like need to work out what right

for you and your body some people have

an issue with dairy - this is

interesting so you have two things you

have glucose you have insulin people

have this idea that well glucose is the

only thing that will stimulate insulin

there’s actually non glucose things that

can stimulate insulin even protein can

do it so then the low fat protein like

even whey protein so if the insulin goes

up but your glucose doesn’t go up that’s

gonna knock you out of ketosis as well

so this is a great tool to be able to

identify what foods Mike you can’t eat

on your program and even with the Aquino

Fritz so-called friendly foods you have

people using multiple dextran dextrose

Tex what else Lee is to use um tapioca

starch like these yes yeah yeah all of

those those fiber fillers can that can

have an effect on some people but not on

yeah I mean if you can get away with it

like all power to you you know I mean

I’ve tasted that a lot of the Congress

is some of these keto foods and like I’m

like mmm that sounds that’s so delicious

but the things like probably eating

entire plate cuz that’s what triggers me

and so like I I personally steer clear

from those and and do but you know the

highest of desserts for me is

strawberries and cream hey that’s great

I I can do this sugar cause I can I like

salat all I even like alamos but I don’t

do well with Murray throat all for some

reason so it’s just one thing that I’ve

discovered yeah monk fruits I kind of a

go-to one for me that that works out

really really well yeah but we all have

our own way so when you are able to test

with glucose and ketones this this

sleuthing aspect is a really useful tool

especially when you’re first starting

out

but as you said you’ve got to get that

baseline first to learn what is your

right because you can certainly say we

people run at different levels on their

glucose and so normally what I say to

people is find your baseline and that’s

about an hour after waking because when

you first wake up you’ve got that dawn

phenomenon which basically gives you

that cortisol spike in the morning so

when you get a a cortisol spike that

will actually increase your glucose so

just to clarify people that don’t know

what the dawn phenomena is you when you

check your blood sugars they should be

low if you’re fasting but in the morning

sometimes they’re high like you’re going

wait a sec I didn’t eat anything I got

high blood sugar in the morning that’s

because the adrenal hormone can produce

cortisol and release it mobilize it and

say also you sugar goes high it’s not

that you eat sugar precisely yeah and so

that so that’s the challenge with that

part there and now most people saying or

I see a lot of literature that states

dawn phenomena is about an hour but on

some people we’ve seen that role for a

lot longer and so that’s why it’s sort

of like hey you’ve got to work out what

is right for you and that’s that’s the

what I call the curiosity testing to

find out your bio individuality so there

so you’ve got your baseline there so

then a lot of people ask well when

should I test I went to test if I like

to do that in the morning just before

breakfast so I get my baseline and your

ketones are generally lowest in the

morning and then they rise up during the

day if you’ve been eating nice and clean

and they get to their Zenith just before

your your evening meal so I like to do

it like a low and high just to find out

how I’m doing the second time is when

we’re sluicing out foods I would then do

about 60 minutes after eating and I do a

double test on that to see what’s going

on with that particular meal now do you

have to test after every meal no who

wants to be a slave to the meter I mean

I certainly don’t but you want to work

out what is right for you so we find a

lot of people test a lot to begin with

work out they test they adjust the diet

workout they tested

the dire until they get to the point in

the test they’re in ketosis they test

they keep them there their glycemic

response low and if there happens

repeatedly and you’re a creature of

habit you don’t need to test because you

know you’ve learnt it you know you and

your body and then from then you can

move on so I find think IDO mojo is the

training wheels in life you know you’re

not going to stay with them all the time

and eventually you’re going to be

shooting on and if we’re doing great and

you’re gonna be healthy and it’s like

hey yeah job done that’s what we started

what we got into this forest revolution

to cut revolutionize the cause yeah I

own some use that when someone’s having

trouble and also in they’re like oh I’m

stuck okay so do you are you checking

your teaches well no are you checking

your blood sugar man look I need that

data to evaluate there’s two things that

I want to mention one is let’s say for

example you have coffee in the morning

and you have MCT oil your how to do fat

right which turns into ketones so you

also have eating a meal let’s say for

example you’re eating more carbs in that

male versus really low carbs more fat

your body will turn some of that fat

into ketones and you could be in a

situation where your ketones are high

but you may you may not lose weight

because you’re burning up your dietary

ketones your dietary fat and that’s like

that’s like a big thing that people get

frustrated sometimes so so if you’re

really in the ketosis and you get your

blood sugar down okay good that’s to the

side but you’re still not losing weight

well maybe you need to adjust your

dietary fats absolutely and you know

there there’s the whole sort of like

macro saying that comes into play there

when I first started here I did I did

track my macros I calculated my BMI and

all of that stuff with a macro

calculator and then every month after

that I did a recalculation as my weight

dropped because it’s going to change

over time and also your satiety changes

as well and I kept myself in a slight

caloric deficit only by about maybe 5% 5

10 %

something like that because I knew that

then I would be metabolizing my my

bodily fat and so yeah so there is

there’s a misconception when people say

that a ketogenic diet is a high fat diet

moderate amount of protein lots of above

ground leafy vegetables it really is an

adequate amount of fat for you and for

your journey and what you’re looking to

do because remember that there are

people who are looking for a ketogenic

lifestyle for for weight loss then there

are those that are using it maybe for

traumatic brain injury or for epilepsy

or because they’re using it for

psychological reasons as well I mean I

used to be on antidepressant meds for

many many years but I found that when my

key turns are between one point one and

one point seven and this is me

personally everybody is different that

when I was between one point one and one

point seven this was my sweet spot and I

was able to come off all of my anti

depression meds and and so when you look

at the use of MCTS you know which is I

like to have caproic acid see eight it’s

really bioavailable to the liver and can

make you a nice pop of endogenous

ketones really really quickly and and so

for me if I’m looking to get into my

optimal zone for reason I just have a

little bit of MCT oil in my my keto

coffee in the morning so I want to just

give people a really cool tip about this

without MCT oil in general there’s

something unique about the brain the

brain does love ketones um but when

you’re trying to get into ketosis

sometimes it takes some time especially

if you’re like evidence of the

resistance or you’re pre-diabetic or

diabetic and your body is just making

more sugar and you just can’t seem to

get the sugar down one thing you can do

is take some MCT oil a little bit more

than usual to spike your ketones now

what’s gonna happen your brain will

choose the ketones more than the glucose

it’ll actually as a preference feel a

tap hold and ketones up the brain and

use that

and usually if you have a problem with

instant resistance you’re gonna have

instant resistance in the blood-brain

barrier and those ketones will bypass

all that it’ll feed the brain cells and

you’ll start feeling better right away

cognitive and your mood because your

brain is starting to get the fuel that

it needs so it’s a little pack that’s

very powerful and something you can

speed things up

as you’re trying to get any ketosis you

can actually just you could take ketones

to keep on salts if you want the only

time I recommend that is if you’re like

an athlete or you’re maybe have some

type of Alzheimer’s Parkinson’s or a

dimension that you want to just give

some straight fuel to that brain it’ll

it’ll suck it up in preference to

glucose so that’s cool yeah I mean and

so the exogenous ketones you know they

can be quite expensive depending on your

pocketbook and you know I will see at

one packet might get about a million

more to a 1.5 minute mole

rise for about an hour hour and a half

whereas MCT will for for what is 32

cents retail can if you already fat

adapt it can give you over a minimal

rise and last for a lot longer you know

for five hours from that because your

livers making it and obviously but also

don’t go crazy on MCT oil because I’ve

seen people do that it’s like what your

tolerance is go like if you’re also one

thing with the acute mojo device is

really good to use if you’re

pre-diabetic or diabetic to see your

improvements pre and post meal by

several hours so if you start looking at

the dynamic fluctuations of what happens

to your blood sugars and your ketones

before and after meals like say one hour

after 2-3 hours you can start tracking

that the trends and you’re gonna see

like well I’m getting better

Wow it’s a great tool to in measure

improvement and so evaluation is about

comparing two things okay you

so highly Mohammed by the way has the

ability to actually tag a cm EC so post

pre and post basically your mule mil so

there’s an icon that is on that so you

can do a little tag just to remind you

hey what was going on on that one there

and we all obviously have our Bluetooth

connector that now you can connect all

of that data and you know you’re going

to you can share it put it onto your

phone and then put it on to other

platforms as well we’ve got some

exciting news that’s going to be

happening in on that front very soon

very nice what’s the exciting news so

we’ve been working for the last six

months to build a secure HIPAA compliant

encrypted health cloud and in that house

cloud you’re going to actually be able

to track all of your data and then what

we’re also going to be working now once

we have built this this health cloud we

better do air simple API calls as the

tech boys say it and that means we’re

going to restart into linking to all

different electronic health records and

other systems as well so basically we

want people to have access to the data

but they also need to share it with

their caregiving team so say for

instance you’ve had a cancer diagnosis

and you’re using a ketogenic therapy as

an adjunct to your normal standard of

care you’re gonna want to have your

integrative medicine doctor you might

wanna have your chiropractor you have

your oncologist your radiologist and

maybe even your your health coach have

access to all of that data at the same

time so one of the challenges of going

hero is self accountability you know

it’s it’s a psychological and a

physiological game that gets played here

and you have to change some of these

lifestyle habits and that takes 30 to 60

days to really ingrain that habit and

that accountability so you don’t fall

off the wagon during the time is where

glucose and ketone measurements can come

on in because then on a daily basis you

wake up in the morning new tests and you

know in your state of ketosis great that

means what you were doing

it was right then if you’re using the GK

I because you want to have a very low

ratio for maybe for cancer therapy

professor Thomas Seyfried fine what that

means yeah that’s a good question

glucose ketone index is the G ki and it

is the relationship between your glucose

measurement in millimoles and your

ketone measurement so in America you

will take your glucose measurement which

is in milligrams per deciliter and you

divide that by 18 and that will give you

millimoles and then you then divide that

by your ketone measurement so

nutritional ketosis is defined anywhere

under 9 so a nutritional ketosis kind of

gki will be somewhere anywhere from

maybe 3 4 2 to 9 that top and then

therapeutic ketosis maybe you’re using

this for epilepsy or for peacocks or

something like that that’s gonna be

roughly 1 2 3 cancer you’re gonna try

and get it under 1 but that is really

really really hard usually you need to

be you will definitely need to be under

doctor’s supervision for that you’ll

definitely be for doing caloric

restriction one meal a day you might

even be on on metformin as well and some

other stuff to really get that glucose

down low because the Warburg effects is

what comes into play here that I wanna

touch on that one point just so people

have a little reality on this this

cancer thing dr. Thomas Seyfried who was

he’s doing research in Boston

fascinating book it’s called cancer as a

metabolic disease but when he’s done he

he can’t find how he’s doing in animal

studies but you can’t find a type of

cancer that can survive after 15 days of

his protocol so he’s basically the thing

about cancer cells is they’re they’re

hyper glucose

consumers they consume glucose at a rate

I think if I’m not mistaken it’s like a

33 times more than normal cells so you

know you have to start them and then if

you start them they they go they can’t

live so to do that you want these tools

to measure your blood sugars you want to

get a really low metformin probably

would help but you know have all the

drugs I think that one probably is if

you should take the B vitamins for b1

especially are the least amount of side

effects or else if you don’t it could

create a big side effect as a warning

label on there for lactic acidosis but

b1 is what you would need to prevent

that problem but yeah so it’s about

dropping the glucose so you can actually

attack this cancer and then have the the

cells the good cells live on ketones so

it’s a great strategy there’s videos on

this data but there’s also a recent

paper that on the Seyfried just recently

posted up along with Dominic D’Agostino

Miriam Callum Ian and Ally nadir all

about their their press pulse a pro

approach and protocol so I encourage

people to to read that because it goes a

little bit more into detail about how

they did low the glucose there and how

they were using hyperbaric oxygen

therapy at the same time because

different cancer ferments the glucose in

the cell and aerobic Li so they wanted

to make a very aerobic environment so

they’re trying to make it as hard as

hard as hard as hard and hard as

possible for that cancer to survive

until eventually it’s weakens down so

much that the body’s wonderful immune

system can really get get into play and

get his arms around it and necrotize

that tumor and I’m just going to say

that since you brought the topic up on

cancer there’s that’s one thing I’m

gonna be talking about at the summit

you’re gonna be at the summit you’re

gonna be testing people a lot of people

that are watching now are gonna be there

it’s gonna be a great event but he’s

I’m going to be touching on some

interesting data with cancer because um

here’s the thing with the cancer there’s

a this conventional view point where you

have a genetic mutation and then you get

cancer but this isn’t really pan out

there’s too many holes in that theory

and also all the different chemotherapy

drugs have not really panned out to wipe

out cancer because there’s too many

mutations it’s all over the place well

just to get to your point there I mean

if you look at the rise of the cancer

cancer rate since the 1970s in direct

correlation to the rise of cheap

carbohydrates because you’d and the

obesity rate you know has our genetic

code changed so remarkably since the

1970s no way no and it’s not it so it’s

not like that so it’s really think that

that’s a bit of a fool’s errand of that

that some of the doctors are going down

on the fact that saying it’s a genetic

thing yeah that can that can kind of

like tip the scales a little bit but not

to the extent that we can see that is

you have genes that are passed on from

your parents that potentially could be

cancer genes but it’s very small

percentage the great majority of genes

are affected by our environment I’m

sorry the gene but the great majority of

cancers affecting about our environment

which means that it’s something else and

so see free talks about this Warburg

actually started it the whole concept

but he said there’s at first there is a

shift of metabolic in your mitochondria

that the new metabolism starts

fermenting glucose and then after that

you start getting mutations which is

fascinating in work so it’s like what

this is a whole new concept so what I’m

going to be talking about is exactly

what you said but the other the

nutritional deficiency is that are the

perfect storm because there’s there’s

eight nutrients that are really

important in

repair and chromosome stability and

preventing breaks in the DNA and also

the cellular machinery with mitochondria

and if you’re deficient and I’m not

talking like fully deficient like you

would be in scurvy but if you’re

deficient just like sub clinically um

that alone could create the same damage

as radiation therapy which is like mind

blowing you mean that the nutritional

efficiency could be just like getting

radiated I mean this is like huge so

anyway I’m gonna talk about that at the

summit which is fascinating data and I

just wanted to mention that yeah I’m

really looking forward to the summit

last year it was absolutely fantastic it

was super well attended the quality of

the speakers is is excellent and so

we’re really honored to be invited back

again for that so thank you yeah I think

you also noticed that people that were

tested there was more people in ketosis

than other totally it’s funny I was at a

convention in England England I’m not

gonna say what it was

but it was full of doctors and nurses

and I tested them and no one was in a

state of nutritional ketosis and I asked

the group has anybody actually practice

this or lived it and they were using it

as therapies for the epileptic community

and I go oh I don’t need to do it

because well maybe in 20 years and I’m

thinking like oh my god the damage that

you’re doing but this is - no this is

where they I love the work that you’re

doing and others in the community is by

sharing the information we can put it

out there and this is what I call about

weaponizing the consumer we need to give

as much information as possible to the

consumer so they can make them well

judged choices of what they need to do

but I’d like to come back to what you

said about radiation therapy there a

little bit my wife was diagnosed with

breast cancer

she’s now seven years clear which is

fantastic for that but we wish we had

known then what we know

because it would have been a massive

game-changer I think in recovery time

and whether or not we would have gone

for the standard of care there would

have been something really up for a much

more heated debate than what it was

because the effects of the radiation

therapy can be pretty harsh to the to

the body and I think I think when you

talk about nutrient density and making

sure that we have all of that good which

to give our bodies what it needs is

vitally important people I don’t talk

about in the Canadian community that’s

nutrient density but I always want to

touch a little bit on that ketones is

not just energy it has a signaling

effect within within the body and when

we talk about cancers and rise of

cancers is it can up regulate gene

expression and down regulate are the

gene expression and just as the converse

can glucose can do that so if you were

predisposed to have a cancer and now

you’ve got a large amount of glucose

with whether you can be up regulating

those genes that you don’t want to be

doing that alarming for that that room

for that to come on into play I think

the work that’s going to be done on the

signaling aspects of ketones is going to

be really exciting especially in the

neurological world coming up in the

future I love it I love it well this has

been really good is there any last

points that you wanted to mention

anything new well I think the next 60

days and key to mojo are going to be

probably the most exciting 60 day since

we first launched we have a brand new

website that is coming on out on there

and that’s what we talked about the

weapon a team of the consumer with

recipes how to information what’s going

on in the in the Kino community clinical

trials papers it’s it’s something that

the team have been working on for the

last five months and we’re super excited

with that that will be also paired with

the the new dashboard in which you can

track your health data because that

measurement will lead to control and

then there’s something very exciting

coming for Europe can’t give you

yet but that will be coming up in a

little while you know what but it’ll be

pretty exciting we haven’t forgotten

about our European friends well there’s

gonna be a lot of people from Europe

watching this so I’m sure they’ll want

to I’ll put the link down below guys for

what he’s talking about so you can check

it out

but anyway thank you so much for taking

the time out I think we got a lot of

great data out there and I appreciate it

when watching this and stay tuned for

more updates

absolutely okay