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hey everyone welcome back I have a great

guest today and his name is Rob kidney

and he was one of the contestants on The

Biggest Loser and welcome thank you

thank you it’s good to be here

absolutely I appreciate you taking the

time I I really want to start out just

to kind of hear your story your

background first tell us a little bit

about you know the struggles with weight

and your health even before you went on

The Biggest Loser in a ditch III guess I

was a chubby little kid and struggled

with that when I was a little bit yeah

kind of grew out of it when I was a

teenager and through high school and

college pretty much maintained my weight

pretty pretty well got out into the

business world as a salesman traveled a

lot ate a lot of food in restaurants of

course all the time.they eating out and

just started to put on a little bit of

weight and honestly up until oh I guess

about 1996 or 97 I was maybe 30 40

pounds overweight for a long period of

time and then I had about a 10-year

stretch of uh a whole bunch of events

that just put so much stress on me that

I just realized that my stress eating

got a little bit out of control

so so it’s a combination of stress and

stress eating and then eating the wrong

foods right yes yes it’s the stress is

big stress is a big thing I always have

have been an athlete and exerciser

through college even when I was in my

first I’ve been married 36 years my

first uh years of marriage we exercised

a lot together

hiked walk ran is in the gym as much as

possible but I love to work I’ve always

loved to work I guess you like to work -

I see I see so many videos coming out

every every day yeah finding time to

exercise in that kind of environments

like most people we are

I call them intermittent exercisers we

exercise when we can write what was the

peak weight that you hit like what’s the

most you’ve ever weighed 326 when I the

Biggest Loser Wow

so here you are you hit this way did you

did it when you walked around or sat

what are to feel like on your joints to

have that much weight to do to get down

to it her it was miserable okay point

and and I’ll say it over and over again

anybody that asked me about the Biggest

Loser experience it literally saved my

life I really believe that it did I was

in a in a bad situation I’ve gone

through to cancer surgeries both

prostate and finally got that taken care

of that was in maybe in moms who I was

about 2009 2010 and hold three at the

time I was probably 54 so okay it’s

pretty early for prostate cancer but but

I tracked that we caught it pretty early

and and got that taken care of

I had a tornado a freak tornado came

through I had businesses and destroyed

my business and should pay anything so

in a matter of seconds I lost them

couple hundred thousand dollars and

borrowed the rebuild and the economy

just went down and you and I had had a

drug problem for many years which was

probably worse than the cancer and Wow

but several other things but it just it

just all kept building I had I had a

really good friend and best friend and

one of my mentors in life I felt fell

off of a ladder and and died and I just

I just started eating more I would find

myself sometimes and in drive throughs

at restaurants not knowing how I got

there wow wow so you have all these

present time problems and it’s just

stacking up and of course you want to

get relief so

turn to eating so when you actually got

on this this show tell us a little bit

experience of how that went

it looked pretty intense wait it was

intense it was to take a 326 pound body

and tell it to go to the gym for 40

hours a week there was there was a lot

of hurt a lot of pain but 40 hours a

week at the gym 40 that’s a full-time

job at the gym

yes yes it was I mean some of that some

of that of course was with trainers as

you see on TV but a lot of it’s a lot of

it’s not but you know again the Biggest

Loser I just have to tell you for me it

was it was a it was a break from life

which I greatly needed maybe some

intervention I just believe it was a

god-sent thing to help me take a

sabbatical from life so so so I didn’t

know that I didn’t know how much a

person exercised on that program so can

you give me just so like a summary like

you through the day is it just like okay

you’re on the treadmill for an hour take

a break okay go back on the lift awaits

go back like what kind of workout would

you do in a given day workouts were it’s

mostly staying really really busy all

day long we get up in the morning and

and if if you chose to eat something was

you know we’ve pretty much prepared our

own foods we didn’t have a chat we

learned how to cook they have the best

nutritionist in the world and chefs who

do teach you some things about cooking

but then you’re on your own for else you

wouldn’t be able to make these decisions

it is a show it is a contest at the time

when it started 12 13 years ago it used

the best possible science available at

that time that was going on so I will

never never fall the biggest loser for

anything but give it credit for saving

my life but we started with a morning

workout was most of the time I fasted

workout just like I do now

then come back eat a little bit of

calories sure we ate we ate frequent

times throughout the day but for the

intensity of what we were doing it was

probably necessary so the the food was

the best produce in the world they’ve

made a lot of vegetables which which was

new for me one of the things I really

learned how to do well there was was a

really plant-based me oh I ate a lot of

plant-based food it’s the the the big

thing that changed for me after the show

and of course going to Quito it’s been

carved I’ve always ate clean since that

point really clean so just I want to

kind of just get you know because I want

to get into that topic but I wanted to

find out just as far as the workouts so

you basically you would eat eat through

the day and then you would work out in

the afternoon well we’ve worked out we

would work out on our own in the morning

then maybe with a trainer for a couple

hours do a couple are if workout or a

circuit workout it’s not all cardio it’s

it’s some really fun workouts where the

best trainers around and each trainer

has a little different Flair and a

little different style my trainer was

Jen waders Drummond and and she would

put us through some like circuit

training or CrossFit type training and

we had a lot of fun but doing it as a

group also helped double so so then you

would go a period of time and then was

it seven days a week or did you have a

day off well we were working out the

whole time we were there whenever most

of the contestants get on there I mean

everyone gets on The Biggest Loser I

think the biggest motivation is to lose

as much weight as fast as possible I

don’t think money is a big thing

it might come into play after if you’ve

lost a lot of weight but everybody goes

there to lose as much weight as fast as

possible right okay you’re working out

all the time there is little pusher to

and once one person does that more exact

everybody starts working out that you

work out every couple hours put a little

bit of food in your mouth work out again

but a little interesting and then I

think obviously the food was fairly

clean but then you had the

the frequency of meals so you had quite

a few meals and then you also or allowed

snacks and fruit right well yeah yeah I

mean it was uh it was like meal little

snack meal little snack meal little

snack and again they have to leave a lot

of that up to you so that you either

sink or swim in the show that’s but at

all times you’re totally monitored you

log your food it’s being checked so that

there they’re just no problems no one is

allowed to go to severe calorie

restriction unless they completely

didn’t tell the truth in all right

everything is monitored and say okay and

then at the point you lost a total of

how much was the total that you lost

116 Wow and that was over a period of

how long about three months branch doing

the forty hours a week that you

compartment and most people have jobs so

you go back to work and still try to

work twenty twenty for work twenty 24

hours a week x three months and then you

have a live finale and then you come

home and and crash though Wow okay so

you lost all the way and then you

completed that program yes and then you

were done and then um what happened at

that point with your well huh come back

home and that when we finished up we

were of course the last season that the

I guess it was a New York Times that did

that published the report the Biggest

Loser study that came out and they were

aware of that when we got done and and

they did their due diligence of warning

us that we would have to go home and and

the study shows that you know your left

and levels are down your metabolism is

downgraded and you’re gonna have to

either exercise for many hours

any really really clean to keep this off

and then we would have regular calls and

group calls for a while after that to

just check on us and to see how we were

doing

and maybe if we needed any any advice

they would give us some advice though

and then and then you gained some weight

back yeah I gained some weight back

probably in 18 months

I gained 88 90 pounds in a 18 months

that was a very very scary time I must

mine my eating was Queen kale shake for

breakfast salad for lunch and a low-carb

dinner of all odd eating eating low carb

for many many many years but I did eat

some quinoa and some rice and I don’t

know if there are clean cleaner carbs

but hey pretty well sweet potatoes and

didn’t need a whole lot of junk but in

that 18 months it just kept coming on I

exercised a few hours a week a lot less

than I was told that I had to but but

anyway it just kind of just kept

crawling and creeping back on I guess my

setpoint was so low and my metabolism

was so low that it just it was it was a

really scary thing until about January

of first I had started about in January

price of 218 I had been watching your

videos from six months slowly making

changes as you had suggested you know I

looked I watched a lot on Keith that’s

all I was hearing was key to this keep

of that but but it really didn’t like

some of the things I’m that I was

hearing on the Internet

that’s what against ideas of what clean

eating was I mean bacon seven days a

week yeah I think I think and let’s just

bring this up because I think um there’s

this kind of delusion comment generality

that says oh keto is all just pure bacon

and red mean fat right that’s kind of

like that’s what I saw it burst right so

but there’s what’s called a healthy

version of it which is actually a lot of

vegetables high-quality

and it’s not all just that right are you

cleaner than probably anybody I know

I eat more vegetables in more kale I

liked your approach your approach helped

me one as I was looking at Kido I was

looking at intermittent fasting as I

determined it was probably the key but I

was I didn’t know that I could really

fast and go and and push myself to that

limit because I’d been eating four or

five times a day even small amounts not

big amounts but I didn’t know that I

could do it but when you started to say

okay take your 5 mils turn them into

three meals eliminate the snacks then

push your breakfast back toward

lunchtime until you’re eating in an 18-6

window that made a lot of sense to me

and the other thing was yes seven eight

cups of greens a day sold me because I

knew from my experience even on even on

the ranch my best weeks were all

vegetables and fish weeks that’s right

my best my best weight loss is healthy

fats and greens I love it so for those

of you that are watching that are new

and I want to mention something because

this is like the most important point is

the combination of a healthy version of

keto and then intermittent fasting when

you have to eat so often you’re raising

insulin despite if you’re eating nuts it

doesn’t matter you’re just raising

insulin so in a minute fasting forces

your body to actually live off your fat

between the meals when you do that you

actually go into a state of ketosis

which is fat burning and you you think

that oh I’m gonna struggle with it but

no no you actually your hunger goes down

your cratons go down you can last longer

because you’re running off your own fat

the way that most people do it if they

snack is they never actually get into a

true sustained fat burning and

the whole key to this thing is lowering

your insulin which will prevent the

slowing of your metabolism I think what

happened to you is that because of the

raise of the stress of losing weight and

then the raising up of insulin that

slowed the metabolism right there so if

you have a stubborn metabolism you you

have to focus on lowering insulin that

is the secret right there and that’s

what you did yeah and what one thing you

said there about about whenever you eat

insulin raises I was hearing a lot on

the Internet about you can eat all this

fat and you can eat I mean you can eat a

lot of greens and things but but there

are certain foods that won’t spike your

insulin but I found out that every time

I ate a meal starting January 1st of

last year my insulin went up my sugar

when I was I bought me a keto meter and

I was ketones three four or five times a

day fasting days I would eat something

out idiot eat a certain sweetener just

to test it I would eat a kale salad to

test it and even on even on a kale salad

my insulin spike and we know with

someone who is insulin resistant who has

maybe some fatty liver and and some

other problems that that spike stays up

a little bit longer than someone who’s

maybe 10 20 pounds over overweight but

that’s that’s what I found I tested

everything that you were telling me and

and it worked I mean I did not want to

give away all my healthy eating

migraines I’m a big supplement guy I

take I take a lot of stuff and I take

some of your supplements –n and all the

time but it’s it’s i did not want to

give up really good eating and and the

other thing that kind of bothered me was

you know and and some people don’t do it

in in the world of keto but i counted my

carbs I put everything in I loved every

bit of food that I’ve ever eaten

that’s one best thing that Biggest Loser

ever taught us was to log every bit of

food I use my fitness pal but every time

I come up with my fitness now it’s

saying I’m eating

4050 Karp today and I think I’m eating

10 15 carbs a day but a lot of my carbs

are good healthy carbs that are coming

from the vegetables and the salads and

things like that so I’m okay at about 50

I stick I stick 40 50 probably if I’m

going to count every car I don’t like

the idea or they’ll count this and don’t

count that I just I count them all I try

to stay 40 to 50 grams a day if I’m

eating vegetables and I’m happy with

that so interesting and one more point

about that the when you eat vegetable

carbohydrates you’re dealing with a

carbohydrate but a lot of that’s in the

form of a fiber fiber despite being a

carbohydrate doesn’t have the effects of

like other other macronutrients so it

eventually indirectly it’s fed to the

microbes that turns into what’s called a

butyric acid which then helps you fix

instant resistance so indirectly it

helps you so not to mention all the

potassium and the magnesium and the

vegetables in the chlorophyll which

basically also help insulin resistance I

think a real subtle point that I don’t I

hope everyone got so far is that we’re

not even dramatically changing your diet

we’re actually changing the frequency of

when you’re eating and probably tweaking

it but did you did you also tweak it

with with cutting out some of the sweet

potato or fruit oh I eat a Mary every

once in a while I don’t eat a lot of

food but I think bioflavonoids and a lot

of minerals in but I I don’t I eat a

sweet potato that’s my my cheat day if I

have a cheat day it’ll be half of a

sweet potato something that’s really I

enjoy conquering net that that’s that’s

sweet craving big for me I guess the

best I’ve been able to identify myself

is is a thyroid type if we’re talking

about body types from you from all the

research I did in your health coach

classes

now I think I’m a thyroid type but

that’s that sweet craving as well as

something that when you get on keto

first thing you want to do is find all

these sweet alternatives that you can

grow in your mouth at eight o’clock at

night like you used to do ice cream or

cereal or something else and then it

seems like you’ve it to be successful

you got to progress beyond that and

actually in fact the problem which is

the sweet craving and the facts do help

that they help a lot but I eat today

today I’m over this year let’s say I’ve

taken back off another 50 plus pounds I

still have about 35 pounds to go till

where I got off the Biggest Loser and

it’s been slow there’s been plateau

after plateau after Plateau and that’s

okay I’m eating to be healthy and the

weight loss will follow and that limit

may be a big thing that you said that

it’s totally agreed with with my

philosophy I want to get healthy I was

almost dead yeah I totally believe what

they say I was dying and probably didn’t

have long to go they found another thing

I’m very grateful for with all the

medical staff that they have they found

free heart blockages my current

bloodwork that I just had and now after

you know I said a year and a half of

keto and a good good year of

intermittent fasting with keto my all my

markers are blood I was back home blood

pressure back on thyroid medicine that’s

all gone well my TSH for the first time

and t4 is totally in line calcium’s a

little low Mykel seems always a little

know for some reason maybe because I

don’t eat dairy I don’t know if you can

help me I do supplement what do you

supplement with no I’m not not not the

rocks and other things that not the

carbonates and I’m not get it to citrate

okay good yeah as long as it’s a citrate

mineral and it’ll be fine

as long it’s not people those of you

they’re watching you never want to just

take the form of calcium in the calcium

carbonate you’d be better off chewing on

the cement out there so we want to stick

with the citrate but you you have to

calcium is one thing that I’m really

cautious the only time I would recommend

it is if it shows low or you have bone

loss because as people age the thing

that they have always too much of in the

wrong place is calcium and so they have

calcium and the arteries of calcium and

the joints and so you got to be careful

even especially women with with calcium

supplements and iron supplements those

are two that you got to be careful with

question I have about just the

differentiation of the food the foods

like you you were doing probably a lot

of snacking I’m guessing you well just

eating frequently and now you’re

lowering the carbs and you’re eating one

meal a day right I really found that I

have to mix it up a lot I went to total

oh man for one meal a day for awhile

let’s say well we started off the

beginning the year push in the in an

18-6 window with two meals then I

graduated to one mill a day I really

love how I feel on one meal a day I like

it a lot but I did plateau after a short

while and then the plateau I give a

plateaued three or four weeks before I

really panic about it but three or four

weeks later I said we’ve got to switch

something up so I at the advice of

everybody on the internet they say eat

more fat you’re not eating enough fact

you’re not enough that one I’m 60 years

old another thing that you have taught

me is that that as you age maybe you

need to look at your fat percentage and

keep it more around 60 percent than 70

or eight so I try to keep it around 60

percent and I function really well there

when it gets beefed up and especially on

snacks

nuts will put on weight on me really

quick or if I get that fat up there

around 7080 percent and you can tell

they’re real easy on some of them I want

to push my fitness pal but I have my

fitness penalty the paid-for version

that you can track all your macros and

keep your percentages and and I love

that so Wow yeah that’s that’s a good

for those people that are platt doing

and I’ll just kind of give you a couple

things um you probably already know

number one it’s not necessarily a matter

of increasing the fat we want if you’ve

plateaued we want your body to burn your

own fat and not as much of the dietary

fat so you want to bring them bring your

fat down a little bit not as a low-fat

but maybe maybe have the fat not extra

but just with your protein like you’re

out you’re getting your fat with the

salmon or the other as as compared to

adding butter or things like that

if you get your fat below 75 grams and I

will be sending out a video of what that

looks like if you want to see but 75

grams is about 55 to 60 percent of your

total calories for an average person if

you’re doing like 1800 calories for the

day but here’s the thing there’s a

couple of things that you can look at

and you you hit it run you talked about

the nuts there’s there’s carbs and nuts

there’s also a vibrant nuts there’s

things and nuts that are anti nutrients

that can irritate your gut they can

create a little bit of inflammation the

same thing with dairy so knots in dairy

are the two things that could put you in

a plateau so what you could do is switch

the type of nut that you’re consuming

for example almonds might sound like a

healthy nut but I found that their their

high unluck tins which actually create a

little this is kind of inflammatory

thing in your gut so if you did walnuts

and you can soak them overnight in water

that it pulls out all these anti

nutrients and I have a dehydrator you

can dry them out for like

and then you can eat those you’ll find

that they bow they digest better they’re

easier to digest you’ll get some good

fat and protein from that and omega-3

fatty acids and you can then also maybe

as a fat eat olives that would be

beneficial so you can see you’re not

hungry all the time and have your

protein and the other thing that I found

with people is that you have to be

careful about certain people cannot just

digest any vegetable that they may be

leafy greens or this vegetable but they

see if they start bloating and they

start getting any type of digestive

digestive problem on that you got to

switch up your vegetable and sometimes

steam ium will help but it’s like you

can’t just put everyone on the exact

same program so when you test your

ketones I think that’s very valuable

because you can find out what foods

agree with you because that could be why

you’re not you know progressing the last

thing I want to mention is that within a

minute fasting you know just like I

don’t know if they did this on The

Biggest Loser muscle confusion they

constantly changed the workout I don’t

know if they did that probably they did

but we want to also do that with fasting

like maybe you don’t eat at the exact

same time each day

let your body tell you when you should

eat like even with some people I find

that maybe every third day there they’re

not eating

they’re like eating one meal a day and

then every third day they skip that meal

because they can go longer so it’s kind

of a mini periodic prolonged fasting

every so often but not on a regular

basis kind of like you’re kind of

tricking your body into it doesn’t

really know what’s gonna eat that

doesn’t necessarily slow the metabolism

because you’re actually you have your

insulin low but it might kind of reset

and your and to lose more weight so

prolonged fasting periodically but not

in a pattern is very powerful to bust

through that Plateau

wow that’s exactly what I found I mean

if I look at this week I start off

Sunday night is is Sundays

my kind of high-fat day and then I’ll

either go into a and again I worked up

to this point so anybody who’s listening

this is this is something that’s worked

up over time but I’ll do a 48 or 36 hour

fast from Sunday night

so either Tuesday lunch or Tuesday night

I leave my one meal a day that makes

Tuesday one meal a day Wednesday is on

also one meal a day Thursday might be

another fasting day I might eat Friday

morning and then eat and then give it

another 8 or so hours and maybe eat a

little bit Friday night Saturday and

Sunday I eat two good meals on Saturday

and Sunday and some fat and then I’ll

switch it up a little bit next week

that’s good that’s good data do you find

that are you actually hungry when you

eat or you just eat like oh I just have

to eat or are you actually hungry right

before you have to eat well funny thing

about hunger as someone who who never

had an off on switch my whole life I’ve

had to really learn this Kido has helped

me to really learn this for or into

minute fasting has helped me to really

learn hunger and I find I’m in a car all

the time I exercise at gas stations I

exercise when I’m in the Verizon store

that was in the Verizon store one day

but I am going to get some exercising

because it is it is found to me to break

any plateau that I have if I do a little

bit of exercise now I refuse to do

exercise that I can’t maintain every

week of my life and a few hours of

exercise in but I do my squats my

push-ups and go up and down stairs or

maybe some cardio or some of the things

you see behind me bodyweight exercise I

don’t do a lot of it I just want to keep

moving and keep strong I am 60 years old

here in a couple months and what the

oils in my body now and the good fats

keep my bones from cracking and creaking

I get out of bed in the morning and I

feel alive I feel my breath and I can

get through my day without a pain

I mean it’s it’s just really wonderful

buzz def I’m gonna pop that I had I’d

switch it up all the time now but think

back to the Hunger think the hunger does

go away it can make it through a

30-minute time period and maybe drink

I’d rate some of your minerals in my

water so I just hit some more of that if

I get hungry when I’m out there but but

most of most of my success has been

working up here on the things that make

me tea and the things that stress me out

and just if you don’t attack some of the

things up here why I’m overeating my

portion control has been a big thing for

me because I’ve always had what I call a

fat mine I mean he would have sold my

plate before I would have had two big

pork chops on it or a 16-ounce piece of

steak now I have my four ounce piece of

meat and ate red meat a lot less

frequently than I did before

well that I want to just interject

because I think that this whole thing

with calories

Oh calories don’t matter listener well

if you look at the macros on the healthy

version of keto you have moderate

protein we’re not talking high protein

moderate protein three to six ounces

depending on your size you may be a

little more a little less and then you

have a lot of vegetables and then you

have a certain amount of fat and that’s

the wild variable so as you get in the

keto you start reducing that so but

we’re not we’re not actually this is not

the same as what a lot of other people

are preaching like oh you just got to

lower your calories globally no that’s

not about that it’s like shifting your

calories to manipulate your hormones so

if you have a low calorie diet with a

little bit of fruit a little bit of the

wrong thing and you snack through the

day you are gonna have a heck of a time

trying to get into fat burning because

it’s that insulin spike so it’s really

understanding um

how to do this right did you I don’t

know what what you had the sign what you

can say what you

can’t say with the biggest losers but

was there anyone and I’m just curious

and you can say nothing but was there

anyone like do they recommend any type

of pills or anything to enhance your

metabolism like caffeine pills or

anything like that it was it was

probably the most tightest controlled

environment I’ve ever been in my life

and and there was never anything like

that okay on that show and in fact if I

could say everything you did even from

weigh-ins they made sure you weren’t

dehydrated over dehydrated you weighed

in three days in a row if that’s not a

trade secret but the reason of that was

to make sure you weren’t dehydrating and

the matreya didn’t have a big weight

gain after weigh-in I mean it was it was

total control right and then what about

did you make some friends and follow up

with people did they also gain the

weight back I’m on a a had a Facebook

group I guess with probably 300 other

biggest losers who have shared this

unique experience some of course and the

ones that are weren’t happy with the

results that they got but but most

people if not all have an immediate

weight gain at first but most of the

ones I know find a point and come back

to like where I am now 30 40 pounds

overweight and some are satisfied there

some have gone and taken all their

weight back off but we still support

each other because it’s it was an

interesting phenomenon that not a lot of

people get to go through and yeah I bet

you I and I’m sure it’d be interesting

to see if they’re reaching for keto and

just by your story I’d be interesting if

they’re like oh that’s a great I’ll have

to look into that there there are many

there are many who are and and is at

least low carb high fat synonymous terms

with me I’m you know I’m old enough that

I’ve been around and remember Atkins and

I remember how popular it was and I

remember being on the Atkins that it

started off very healthy too and it

and I had the same press that Kido gets

now and had a whole lot of people making

comments about it without a whole lot of

scientific fact and and again you’re an

expert in the field you make a living

doing this Jillian Michaels is an expert

she makes a living doing what she’s

doing she’s very good at what she does

she has a lot of really good things to

say but you’re always on the spot for

the things that you say that someone

could interpret them in a different

light or you know again I’m 60 years old

I’ve said too many things with my own

mouth that have got me in trouble my

whole life then I try you know no matter

how hard you try you can’t avoid that

sometimes but the I guess the whole if I

had that Jillian Michaels is fantastic

at what she does

I would never criticize her for that but

some of the statements that she said

were just totally not scientific in fact

and and that’s okay that’s okay

right let’s give her a break you know

hopefully with you would you would learn

the science and then come back maybe

stay maybe this isn’t true but that that

doesn’t happen a lot yeah my only point

with that is that you know there’s a lot

of people struggling just like you were

and they’re looking at things and

there’s no denying that the kedo

lifestyle helps you lose weight but what

happens is what’s right now their

pudding is just a little bit of doubt

that it’s an unhealthy way to do it that

doubt could be the reason why they might

not even do it because they’re operating

off of some completely false information

because they’re looking at the ketogenic

diet as the diet that’s been researched

over the last hundred years with

children which I believe is not very

healthy but it the fact that you’re

lowering carbs does help epilepsy but

you can’t just do any type of fat you

have to do a healthy version and of

course no one’s talking about that

really important point if you combine

healthy version which is basically

quality foods with

nutrients and the benefit of lowering

your carbs it will solve a lot of your

health problems without having to even a

tackle these symptoms individually so so

this is that’s the kind of the beef no

pun intended that I have with some of

the comments out there it’s a just to

just you you should these people should

be able to get the truth the facts about

doing it healthily and not have that

doubt in their mind because

unfortunately I did that video and I

read some of the comments and they were

there are a lot of people I mean most of

the people were like wow this is great

but then there was a percentage that

like yeah I’m a little scared now I

don’t think I’m gonna try it like it’s

too bad because you could probably

benefit from it I said I see what you’re

saying in a good case in point was

almost the very second that article came

out maybe thirty minutes later I posted

a picture of what a high fat meal is it

was a piece of fish on a bed of cabbage

that was cooked in butter the fish was

cooked in olive oil and I had a side of

kale salad that had more olive oil on

and the first comment that I got back

with someone sent me Jillian’s comments

so you’re right people see things and if

it keeps them from from make

experiencing something that will change

their life it doable to maintain the

rest of your life there people been on

keto for 20 years now or eating low carb

rice for 20-30 years and and living just

great and uh I’m fact you just gave me a

good idea I think I’m gonna do a

specific video on what seventy-five

percent or 70 percent fat percentage of

your calories looks like on your plate

I’ll give a lot of examples because

they’re thinking well seventy percent of

your calories well you have to realize

the calories are more than double other

macros so you’re dealing with it’s it’s

not seventy five percent volume like in

grains yes its calories

so when you look at the plate you’re

only talking a a quarter of your plate

is fat but it’s mixing with the protein

so it’s it’s not what people think so I

think I’m gonna clarify that point and

probably the biggest biggest mistake

that people are having it by not logging

in their food is they don’t see that if

you log in your food and you’re checking

it mail by bill sometimes longer then I

log it in a lot before I eat it dude

just to see where I’m at is Wow I need

to make another choice hmm that’s a good

point I love it it’s so easy to get 70%

fat in India without without tunning in

all kinds of extra fat now you don’t

have to I have learned some other

healthy habits that I do you know a

little bit of olive oil on an avocado

oh what a snack that is with a little

bit of salt but one question I one

question I forgot to ask you when you

did with their eating plan a low-fat

plan what you’re taught all kind of

really great things about vegetables and

how to cook them prepare them in

nutrition and and then again you’re

monitored and if you get if you say I’m

gonna eat only protein or I’m gonna eat

something you get a phone call or you

get a visit and and you have to

straighten that out right away but the

the meal plan was just to make sure that

you could sustain the amount of workout

that you were doing the frequency of

eating was probably necessary for what

we were doing so but but they didn’t

necessarily specifically tell you you

have to go lean protein or low fat

proteins okay interests ahead I mean I’m

what and you watch people who eat

chocolate oatmeal the first few days and

then people were eating and don’t that

eating some lunch meat and processed

meats and some I mean most of the foods

there is clean but but you could request

some some special things if you if

you’ve been eating them for a long time

but you know pretty soon every

the processed foods disappear all the

big grains and some of them will still

be eat some grains and some potatoes and

things like that but but it gets

narrowed down you you know you know most

of the people if we were really high on

knowledge before we went there we

wouldn’t be there so we show up they

give us as much knowledge as we can and

the dynamic of the shows is you figure

it out as you go and some figured out a

little bit more than others Wow well I

couldn’t go ahead and I’m just saying

when you can sit there though and

exercise 35 40 hours a week and and

you’re eating a healthy amount of

calories 16 1700 1800 calories for for a

diet is not too extreme if you’re going

to count the calories but when you’re

doing that and still only lose one or

two pounds a week something hormonal E

is happening in your body it’s not being

addressed and that makes that makes a

lot of sense and again I figured it out

through keto so Wow yeah and I think

because of this this whole experience in

your life you’re you’re gonna even

you’re gonna decided to start coaching

people or maybe you’re already doing it

now right I’m working you behind me I

have a big backyard we do every once in

a while just enjoy working with people

one because it helps me keep me

accountable I have had boot camps in the

past we last three or four months and

then on to something else I’ll take it

an individual and work with an

individual one on one sometimes I work a

lot I’m a sales manager so I traveled a

lot and I mean someday I hope to be

doing some health coaching full-time or

find another alternative I’ve got a lot

of things that I’m that I’m working on

now that may come to fruition in the

future but uh yeah we get together here

and have a lot of fun I think you you

took my health coaching course right I

did I loved every bit of it again it

kept me accountable but it helped me

learn

so much and get focused and get nerdy

and I would recommend that to anybody

even if they don’t want to be a health

coach Wow

if they really learned that the amount

of information that’s put forth I think

it took me a little longer than most

people with my work I probably got

through in about four months but I’m

going over and over that information

about you know it’s a one last point

about that it’s the way I like to solve

problems is through understanding the

problem and the more you can understand

about it and have the correct knowledge

you that’s how you solve problems just

like you can’t if you are an expert in

marriage counseling but you’ve never

been married

I’m sorry it’s not gonna work so if you

actually have the full knowledge of

insulin and the different hormones and

it’s gonna be really hard for you to

beat poorly it’s really hard for me to

eat junk food now because I have such a

deep understanding of what it does in

the body the consequences so on that and

then the other thing is that I think one

of the therapies for myself is helping

others so your you it’s a very

therapeutic thing to create a difference

in someone’s life and help them it’s

like I just love doing and in fact if I

don’t if I’m not helping people on a

constant basis I’m not as happy so it’s

a it’s a good therapy to have a tool

that you can really create a difference

so from that viewpoint it’s awesome I

loved it I love to read comments on your

Facebook page and I hang around the

obesity code website a lot for fasting I

love the work they’re doing in Canada

Jason funk and seeing people doing what

you’re doing just keeps you on course on

that out through the Biggest Loser and

we stay in contact all the time I still

a trainer from the biggest loaners loser

but it’s the people who are out there

intermittent fasting every day that I’m

watching them struggle mm-hmm can

comment every once in a while on their

comments help me that’s that’s all I’ll

work love

Thank You Rob so much this has been very

enlightening I think people are gonna

get a lot out of it and I appreciate

your time thank you

thank you very much it was an honor to

be here with you you are my mentor in

this and I thank you for everything that

uh that you’ve done specially through

the health coaching class to help keep

me centered my pleasure