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hey everyone we have a new

before-and-after I want to introduce you

to Joe and Joe welcome to the interview

I wanted to I got you before and after I

just I said I have to interview you

because it’s amazing so I wanted to know

your story so why don’t you tell me a

little bit about what we what happened

before as far as your weight and how it

progressed and then what you did yeah

sure I’ve I’ve always been pretty in

pretty decent shape but over the last

few years I’ve noticed that has been

more of a struggle to keep the weight

off and to be honest it’s been a little

bit harder for me to not cheat so it’s

not been helping very much either

so but I travel a lot during my job and

it just becoming more and more

uncomfortable in the planes and my

clothing and it’s just you know I I kind

of hit a peak where I was at my heaviest

um was rum 200 and started looking

online and seen what else is there you

know I really want to understand getting

my business I do a lot of root cause

analysis and I wanted to understand what

is really causing me to gain weight you

know I everybody says sugar is bad in

cars or bad what why is it bad and I

never really understood it I never

really got a clear answer until I

stumbled on some of your videos and

started understanding a little bit more

about how the insulin affects it and how

the body actually works in that regard

so I wanted to test it out for myself

and started doing probably pretty

aggressively the keto diet ketogenic

diet including the intermittent fasting

and the apple cider vinegars and pretty

much everything that you guys have been

mentioning I’ve you know done other you

know look online to see if you know your

information correlates with what other

people might be saying and sure enough

it’s all over the place once

looking for it and the nice thing about

it is once I did I started it you start

seeing the effects pretty quickly so

that gives you the nice incentive to

keep going it doesn’t take a month

before you start seeing things like a

traditional exercise program where you

actually gain weight before you actually

start seeing the fat come off because

your muscles are getting bigger you

start seeing the effects quickly and I

didn’t want to spoil the results by

exercising at the same time so that’s

all I’ve done was the diet’s in

following the routine with the

intermittent fasting other than going

out for a walk I didn’t do anything else

wow that’s amazing

so you’re you’re basically your job

you’re in the plane a lot you’re

traveling probably hotel restaurants the

whole thing right that’s right yeah I’m

eating out all the time and have

constant temptations and you know

sometimes I don’t have I don’t have it I

don’t take a lunch or sometimes I

unfortunately lost the restaurant at the

end of the day and ongoing town on a big

plate of whatever and usually involved a

lot of carbs and buns and whatever you

can think of and so it’s actually kind

of nice doing the intermittent fasting

included with this process because I

don’t have to worry about lunch like I

don’t even take a lunch you know I my

lunch is at 4 o’clock in the afternoon

and sometimes even later and then I was

I was pretty aggressive with the

intermittent fasting where I was only

giving myself four hour window to do

what I needed to do and just kind of eat

everything I needed within that period

of time and then sometimes on the

weekends I’d give myself eight hours but

it didn’t matter what I did really

seemed to help out a lot and I have had

more energy than I I could think of I

mean I was always coming home and

staying on the couch or just exhausted

on my way home from work and I didn’t

want to do anything now I’m out doing

yard work and everything and I haven’t

even eaten anything all day that’s

amazing so you’re basically just running

on your fat field which has actually

it’s a better quality feel source - you

don’t get the high

and lows when you at your peak I’ll tell

you five eight five eight okay so then

so you started this did you start in a

minute fasting right off the bat or you

to kind of gradually phase it in when

you started to do the ketosis well I

started doing I don’t know maybe within

the first week I mean it was it was

pretty it was almost immediately good

yeah and I didn’t have too much of the

the withdrawal from the carbs carbs and

stuff like that I mean for a few days

maybe but I was able to transition into

it pretty quick I think that once you’re

committed it makes it a lot easier and

for me I was I mean I think I got kids

and they got don’t know it’s all over

the place and cookies and whatever you

can think of and so I was able to do it

so that excuse doesn’t work you know as

long as your commute commits you should

be able to do it absolutely when’s the

first time that you would eat would you

eat at lunch or would you have a

breakfast and then do for how would you

work that out so normally what I do is

that my my I skip breakfast I don’t have

a breakfast so I call it my lunch and

dinner my lunch is at 4 o’clock Wow Wow

so you know I just before I leave the

office I’m pretty much having my lunch

so um you know why I’m working during

lunch I just keep working and it works

for me because a lot of the plants and

and facilities that I support there in

different time zones so I don’t have to

worry about much I just work through it

and then I’ll I’ll eat maybe 2 or 3

hours later my dinner so sometimes it’s

kind of hard to do but there were days

where I just had one meal you know as

long as I’m hitting you know I think I

went to an online that calculator and

you know I’m supposed to be consuming

about 1,600 calories a day just as long

as I’m targeting around 70 74 75 percent

fact around 20 percent protein and then

I’m my target was like 20 grams of carbs

a day

into accounts fiber and all that stuff

from all the vegetables and so on Wow

that sounds really cool yeah the other

other day I was flying there was a day

where it’s about twelve hours of flights

and luckily I found a meal where there’s

like a low-carb burger thing and then I

the next meal was basically four

avocados and this guacamole like it was

huge it was so much food I could barely

stuff my body but it kept me going like

through the night to the next day so

when you would eat your first meal like

at 4:00 would you be hungry through the

day or do you get to a point now where

you can just go and you don’t have that

hunger or cravings it got to the point

where I had to force myself I mean

there’s there some days where I’m not

sure what it is but yeah I can probably

eat at twelve if I really wanted to but

then once I don’t and I’m good till four

I don’t know maybe I smell something in

the office or something like that I

don’t know what it is but then you know

I get home and I’ll just yell before I

go out and cut the grass or do something

I kind of force myself to eat something

so that way I still stay within my my

four hours in it for whatever reason I

did heat a little bit later well then I

just moved my four hours I know the

feeling because there’s time so I’m like

you know I’m not even hungry

might as well eat something you know so

what would you eat in that meal give me

an example I get four what do you mean

so I really I’m more of the liver type

body type so I make sure that I don’t

have more than three three and a half

ounces of protein I eat a lot of nuts

meats and chickens but a lot of salads I

started I started pounding the salad

like you’re recommending so that way I

can get my vitamins

make sure I put the oil on it oil with a

little bit of apple cider vinegar and

just have a big plate of that and a

small little bit of meat where I was

always the opposite have big meat

potatoes and that much salad now it’s

the opposite completely and the nice

thing is I’m also looking at you know

more of the proper types of foods so

trying to get

the eggs that are not caged chickens

I did a little bit of research on what

the actual difference was between the

two and that was pretty interesting and

yes it’s more expensive but the nice

thing is I’m eating less frequently so

it’s not like my grocery bills don’t

went up three times the price I’m

actually eating a little bit less so did

that math basically how it is and then

and that I use My Fitness Pal to track

everything that I’m doing as best as

possible and a scale so I’m weighing

everything like some people think I’m

you know I’m chopping up peppers and and

everything that you can think of putting

a little bit of nuts and everything on a

salad runway every single piece of it

into my salad like I’m getting that

strict on how I’m just not I bought it

I’m actually weighing it to see what the

numbers and it’s nice to know that

though because then you get to get an

idea of portion sizes visually once that

completed over over again now I know how

much a handful of pecans is I don’t have

to weight it necessarily and then I can

kind of speed up things a little bit but

at the beginning you’d be surprised on

how much carbs is actually in a green

pepper people are like there’s no carbs

a green pepper oh my gosh yeah there is

so you have to be a little bit careful

about all that I totally agree so then

when you because I saw your like your

initial picture and then the post

picture you get any people that coming

up to you that knew you before and go

what what the heck are you doing this is

incredible yeah actually pretty much

everybody and the nice thing is is I

just saw them two weeks ago so it’s not

like it’s not like I’m not seeing these

guys for months at a time like they’re

like what the heck are you doing like I

just we went swimming like three weeks

ago and you do not look like the same

person Wow

and I’m just you know I kind of let them

know what I’m doing and all of a sudden

opens up can it works worms because I’m

excited about it and I kind of tell them

what I’m doing but you know the proofs

in the pudding right so instead of

telling everybody what you’re gonna do

and how great it’s going to be I just

wait

it actually happens and then I tell them

what I’m doing and it’s a lot easier

when they see the results and you know

with my wife you know I didn’t pressure

her into it at all

but she was very supportive and and made

all the meals the way I wanted it and

helped me weigh things and stuff like

that even though she wasn’t doing at the

beginning but once she started seeing

the results then she’s now she’s on it

and she’s she’s to like the pastas and

stuff like that so every once in a while

should have that but nowhere near where

she was before and she’s seeing dramatic

results too and I’m slowly trying to get

to the point where we can somehow figure

out how to get the kids off the cereal

and the pancakes and all that so we’re

doing a lot of the research online for

alternative ways of making foods so we

can get them up but my primary reason is

because I just want the health benefits

you know I don’t want the kids to get

cancer and you know this looks like it’s

down the right path if you kill the feet

the fuel source then you probably won’t

get it and we’ve got cancer in the

family plus you know just in general

being healthy and stuff like that to

just look younger and be stronger and

all that good stuff but don’t want to

have to rely on the next Snickers right

I totally agree I you know eventually

you know because I’m not like up

constantly doing seminars I do a seminar

at the breakfast table and teaching my

kids over the years so they finally sunk

in you know after some years but you get

them on board and sometimes you have to

wait till a little bit older but I just

want to bring one point if you mentioned

about the liver body type some people

watching might not know what he’s

talking about there’s four body types

you got the adrenal the thyroid the

liver and the ovary type which is more

the hip weight

livers more of a protruded belly so I

wrote a book about the body types but I

just wanted to mention the liver body

type requires a lot of greens a lot of

salad not too much protein but I would

not recommend getting my book because

it’s outdated get the new one it just

actually came to

but I’m not it’s not released yet you

have to probably when you’re watching

this videos gonna be released but it

won’t be really as quite yet even though

we have them but this is like a new body

type guide and this covers all the the

nitty gritty details that people need

when they have a million questions about

what do you do about this and how do you

make this and you know all the details

I’m gonna be putting up a picture book

with it that shows exactly what you

talked about like portion size what does

it mean when you have seventy five

percent fat what does that look like how

much is three to six ounces of protein

how much is seven cups of vegetables

just to show people to give them the

picture because I think that will save

them time so definitely stay tuned for

that data that should be coming out

shortly of course if you’re watching us

now it’s gonna be already released but a

dream of body type in your picture and

we’ll post a picture like you in fact

I’ll just pull up a picture right now

you can see the belly that’s more of a

liver type not necessarily you don’t

gain weight in your hips or your legs

right it’s in the belly right oh yeah

yeah so it’s more liver type and but you

know in the in the book basically we’re

bringing in an additional strategy not

just the body type data but in a minute

fast e fasting the right way to do it

and then and then ketosis healthy

ketosis because some people what they do

is they don’t look at the quality of the

fats they don’t look at the quantity of

vegetables so here they are doing the

ketosis diet with 20 grams of carbs but

there’s just it’s a small little salad

I’m like that’s not going to be enough

because you’re gonna dump a lot of fat

to this system you don’t want to end up

with a fatty liver and you told me

you’re doing the upside of vinegar too

right so it’s that helps to clean out

that liver so you don’t end up with too

much fat that’s coming off your belly in

through to the liver as it’s coming out

so that’s awesome I mean it’s amazing

before and after when I saw that I was

like impressive I mean who can

who’s gonna argue with that I mean you

could visually see you got steps of what

happened it’s amazing yeah but I mean it

was and I wasn’t even gonna take the

photos and that was the thing that I’m

glad I did because even farther

you know farther down the line I’m

thinking I’m not really losing anything

anymore

when you actually take a photo and you

compare it you can see like my wife

noticed yeah I could see definition now

in your shoulder muscle and stuff like

that where I never even really noticed

it before and and all that so that my

next thing is that starting like just

literally two weeks ago all right now

I’m starting the exercising so now I’ve

got rid of the fat so now if I exercise

I should see the change in my muscles a

lot easier but now there’s my incentive

to keep exercise so I’m just gonna keep

writing the incentive train and keep

expanding upon my before and after to

see you okay oh now what am I where am I

going look like in two months

when exercise using the exact same diet

although I am increasing my my daily

portion size is a little bit too like

2,400 kilo calories just tweaking it a

little bit here and there so I got the

energy but I really haven’t had to do

too much my biggest struggle though is

that trying to figure out the right time

to exercise because from my research the

best time to exercise is still within

your fast don’t eat before the before

still just use the energy that you have

during it fast because your testosterone

and everything is at its peak and then

eat afterwards well it’s kind of hard

sometimes when I’m working all day too

so I’m still figuring that out well I’m

glad you brought that up Joe because I

wanted to bring a little point up

because in my videos I’m describing what

you’re saying however it sounds to me

that you went in this without too much

of a blood sugar issue didn’t seem like

you were too much of a pre-diabetic or

hypoglycemic because it your transition

was pretty smooth so I think

you can plug an exercise well within

your fast in fact some of the other guys

that are doing this now are losing even

more weight not necessarily more weight

but they’re just getting more lean

because if you think about it here you

are in this fasting state insulin is

lowest then you add this exercise it

puts this growth hormone into serious

high gear spikes it way up and so they

usually do it actually what they’ll do

is they’ll eat like at 11 o’clock and

then at 3 and then the workout in the

evening like it may be 7 yeah burn a

night they’re burning fat all night long

they wake up and they’re like their

stomach is like getting leaner leaner or

each day so I don’t think you’re gonna

have a problem I think the main thing to

is the time it takes to adapt to doing

it on the fasting level like for example

if you if someone who do too fast and

had a blood sugar issue they would tap

into their glycogen reserve and then and

put the low blood sugar and feel dizzy

and all this other stuff but if you

could actually train yourself over time

if you had a blood sugar issue you could

literally work out in the middle of

fasting and just switch right to your

fat burning and not have to end up with

a low blood sugar issue so you’ll just

burn fat faster there’s there’s several

studies out there right now with

endurance athletes that are able to not

end up with that massive blood sugar

depletion and any side effects at all

they’re just burning massive amounts of

fat and then what’ll happen though

you’ll probably end up getting too lean

and you’ll probably have to add a little

more fat to the diet or more calories to

keep up but I think I’ll be interested

to see what happens if you start

plugging in the exercise and then maybe

in a month from now send me some more

pictures or communication I’ll be I

think you’ll do quite fine yeah that’s

what I plan on doing I’m expecting my

weight to climb but my body percent fat

keep diving so that’s why I kind of had

that in mind before and after to kind of

track all that stuff so that number

should still keep the pleading and then

but my weight will go up a little bit

that’s awesome Joe you’re perfect

before and after demo of how to do it

correctly so I’m impressed well done and

I appreciate the interview hey no

problem at all I’ll keep the hopefully

you keep in touch and I’ll show you what

the results are in the future awesome

thanks much yeah okay have a good one

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